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mossaidis
06-03-2011, 01:35 PM
So in STU, I can run a 3.0L, 6 cylinder engine at 2340lbs (not including adjustors) with a 33mm restrictor?

anthony1k
06-03-2011, 10:28 PM
So in STU, I can run a 3.0L, 6 cylinder engine at 2340lbs (not including adjustors) with a 33mm restrictor?

Hey Mickey...I think it is 2200 lbs. Do you have a car in mind?

Greg Amy
06-03-2011, 10:36 PM
Weight for a 33mm restrictor 3.0L and under turbo car in STU is 2200#...

GA, curious as to what the Mickster has in mind...thinking Porsche...

CRallo
06-04-2011, 05:03 PM
Spill the beans! :p

mossaidis
06-06-2011, 11:26 AM
Ah, yes - folks are correct 2200lbs. I have lots of ideas and none that I can afford - my lips are sealed. :P

benspeed
06-06-2011, 01:27 PM
My bet - 3.0L twin turbo 135i BMW...:-) Might just make the weight too!

JoshS
06-06-2011, 01:51 PM
My bet - 3.0L twin turbo 135i BMW...:-) Might just make the weight too!

I'll eat my BMW hat if anyone gets a 135i within 300 lbs of that minimum weight. No way!

Chip42
06-06-2011, 03:04 PM
but the mill might fit in an old E30 and that should make the weight, right?

eek.

DoubleXL240Z
06-06-2011, 03:08 PM
DOOOOOOOOHHHHH!!!!!!!!!:o:o

mossaidis
06-07-2011, 10:51 AM
LOL! I gonna let this pot boil a little longer... :) Any more ideas?

Also, it seems we can take a rotary and place a HUGE turbo on it with a 33m plate and still run at 2200lbs... there's another idea. :)

Chip42
06-07-2011, 02:16 PM
Also, it seems we can take a rotary and place a HUGE turbo on it with a 33m plate and still run at 2200lbs... there's another idea. :)

the theory is that there's a maximum HP potential for a given inlet, regardless of the type of heat engine you are feeding. barring heat-recovery setups like power plants use, I think it's probobly close to accurate. If someone has differing information that says a Wankel makes more power than an Otto or Diesel under this limit, please speak up, loudly.

Chip42
06-07-2011, 02:49 PM
Any more ideas?
Mitsubishi 6G72/DOHC a'la 3000GT VR4 in an eclipse?
Toyota 2JZ-GTE in a 1985 corolla RWD (why you would do this I don't know) or lexus IS300?

I think both of the above would be too heavy, and I don't know how the rules work with twin, non-sequential turblows. I think smart money is on the N54/55 BMW right now.

Matt93SE
06-09-2011, 01:33 AM
Ron Pawley runs an IS300 with a 2JZ turbo in it. ex Grand-Am car from what I understand. faaaaast on the straights.

Z3_GoCar
06-13-2011, 10:33 PM
LOL! I gonna let this pot boil a little longer... :) Any more ideas?

Also, it seems we can take a rotary and place a HUGE turbo on it with a 33m plate and still run at 2200lbs... there's another idea. :)

So, to follow this up: Since the twin-turbo N-54 is basically an M-54 with a twin-turbo kit on it. Can you start with a M-54 as a base and add the turbo to it?

Greg Amy
06-14-2011, 07:13 AM
Can you start with a M-54 as a base and add the turbo to it?
Negative. "Turbochargers may not be added to engines that did not originally come equipped with one."

benspeed
06-14-2011, 09:47 AM
Greg - the 968 came as a Turbo RS version but only a dozen or so were built. Does that qualify?

Greg Amy
06-14-2011, 09:54 AM
Greg - the 968 came as a Turbo RS version but only a dozen or so were built. Does that qualify?
If it was a "vehicle offered for sale to the public and available through the manufacturer’s distribution channels in the US" then yes.

mossaidis
06-14-2011, 11:49 AM
Negative. "Turbochargers may not be added to engines that did not originally come equipped with one."

Bingo - that is the answer to my question. I didn't see it inthe ST rules, but I didn't look that hard either.

benspeed
06-14-2011, 07:46 PM
Performance models, such as the 110 lb lighter Club Sport and a 305hp turbocharged "S" version, and a 350hp turbocharged "RS" version, all of which offered sportier suspension, were available in ROW form, but were never imported to the U.S.

Damn looks like no turbo 968 for sure

Z3_GoCar
06-19-2011, 11:22 PM
Woops trying to start a new thread