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Terry Hanushek
10-01-2010, 04:19 PM
The Northern New Jersey and South Jersey regions will be conducting a NJRRS championship series event at New Jersey Motorsports Park. This event is the Jersey Road Racing Classic (JRRC) regional races on the Lightning course on 23-24 October.

The Run-Offs are done, the NARRC-offs are drying out, time to get excited for the "Jerk" (keep your mind on the wheel). The Jersey Road Racing Classic is just around the corner. The JRRC will be season finale for the NJRRS series - NJRRS Points (http://www.njrrs.com/points/10_Points.html) - as well as the last 2010 race in the Northeast Division. One last opportunity to run your car before the winter break / overhaul.

The event schedule has a Saturday morning qualifying session followed by three races for each group. Lots of track time, plenty of racing. Two days, three races - Race, Race, Race!

There will be no separate SCCA Test Day for the JRRC.

Online registration is now open at on the DLB (http://www.dlbracing.com/) site - Select South Jersey Region or Northeast Division as the Club to see the event calendar.

Schedule and Supps (http://www.dlbracing.com/download.filx?FileID=1266) ... Entry (http://www.dlbracing.com/clubs/sjr-scca/clubrace.aspx?EventID=4237&LMID=2364)

Terry

monsterbronco
10-18-2010, 10:43 AM
So whos going?

I will be making my NJMP deput running ITS and STU.

on that note, anyone have video of Lighting? preferably from a rx7?

Wes

CRallo
10-18-2010, 11:22 AM
Perfect timing! Just read the sups last night... Had to take a few breaths to ensure that I'd be polite to those that give so much to help make this stuff happen. :/

I plan to contact said people, but I wanted to post up here as well. Why is STU in with half the IT classes? :(

Can this be changed? Thoughts?

Thanks!

dtanthon
10-18-2010, 01:23 PM
Contact the Chief Steward. You can always ask.

Greg Amy
10-18-2010, 02:05 PM
Why is STU in with half the IT classes?


Contact the Chief Steward. You can always ask.
Food for thought for next year: with the expected introduction of ST Light, STU can be run with the slower (2.0 L and under) IT cars (e.g., ITA/B/C/7) like in this event, and STL can be run with the faster IT cars (e.g., ITS/ITR). This way the faster IT cars can double-dip into STU and the slower cars can double-dip in STL.

More money, more fun for all.

GA

CRallo
10-18-2010, 04:08 PM
Food for thought for next year: with the expected introduction of ST Light, STU can be run with the slower (2.0 L and under) IT cars (e.g., ITA/B/C/7) like in this event, and STL can be run with the faster IT cars (e.g., ITS/ITR). This way the faster IT cars can double-dip into STU and the slower cars can double-dip in STL.

More money, more fun for all.

GA

Def on the right track Greg, but what about the slow cars with big engines? Lol

STU has been moved to group three! :D

monsterbronco
10-18-2010, 04:14 PM
STU has been moved to group three! :D

Except that I was registered for ITS and STU both now group 3....

Kai Noeske
10-18-2010, 06:25 PM
I plan to be there, will be my first race at Lightning, only did a track day there a year ago - in my street Corolla.

Wes, I do have video of that, but you'd be better off searching teh utubeZ, unless you want to look at the track very slowly ;)

Kai Noeske
10-18-2010, 06:31 PM
PS - WARNING - if I remember correctly, the dirt on the outside of the 90 deg lefthander after the bridge, right before the exit curb starts, was pretty worn, so that I bent a (very sturdy) wheel when I went from the dug-out dirt onto the curb.

That was a year ago - hope they fixed it - but worth sharing.

CRallo
10-18-2010, 07:44 PM
Except that I was registered for ITS and STU both now group 3....

Oh no! That's no good either :(

Dunno why the change was made or who asked for it if anyone, it was actually made Friday, but the online supps were not updated until today... There is a way to do this that works for everyone... STU usually gets grouped with SSM up here. SSM was by its self with 6 cars as of last night. And SRF is by its self as well though the nunbers are a bit better...

monsterbronco
10-18-2010, 10:08 PM
Yeah i have no idea what happened. I registered this morning and they were for sure separate groups.

I emailed the registration about it. So we will see what happens. currently Im the only one that has a conflict. not entirely sure why they moved STU :(

John Nesbitt
10-19-2010, 06:35 AM
Yeah i have no idea what happened. I registered this morning and they were for sure separate groups.

I emailed the registration about it. So we will see what happens. currently Im the only one that has a conflict. not entirely sure why they moved STU :(


This falls into the category of "No good deed goes unpunished." The organizers mioved STU and SPU in order to accommodate some entrants who wanted to enter two race groups. Unfortunately, this created your conflict.

The Chief Steward is currently re-jigging the moves in order to prevent conflicts, while still accommodating double-dippers.

Andy Bettencourt
10-19-2010, 07:36 AM
This falls into the category of "No good deed goes unpunished." The organizers mioved STU and SPU in order to accommodate some entrants who wanted to enter two race groups. Unfortunately, this created your conflict.

The Chief Steward is currently re-jigging the moves in order to prevent conflicts, while still accommodating double-dippers.

Good idea seeing as how STU is actually specifically designed to accomodate IT double dippers.

monsterbronco
10-19-2010, 08:20 AM
This falls into the category of "No good deed goes unpunished." The organizers mioved STU and SPU in order to accommodate some entrants who wanted to enter two race groups. Unfortunately, this created your conflict.

The Chief Steward is currently re-jigging the moves in order to prevent conflicts, while still accommodating double-dippers.

OK glad to know things are being worked on. Registration passed my email on to the chief steward but i hadnt heard anything back yet.

Kai Noeske
10-19-2010, 09:23 AM
Will there be a tire service at the event?

I haven't moved all my wheels to Baltimore yet, so it would be great to have a fallback in case I need fresh rubber along the weekend.

Alternatively, Andy, do you have a tire machine in your flatout truck? I am running the same size as SM.

dtanthon
10-19-2010, 10:12 AM
http://www.treadzone.com

last I heard Joe Specht will be there. I'm going to try the Hankooks on the Mazda.

Kai Noeske
10-19-2010, 10:47 AM
Thanks! I was thinking about going to the BFG R1s - they seem to be the tire-to-have for FWD SS.

Terry Hanushek
10-19-2010, 11:12 AM
Wes / Chris


Oh no! That's no good either :(


I emailed the registration about it. So we will see what happens. currently Im the only one that has a conflict. not entirely sure why they moved STU :(

A change has been approved to move STU / SPU to Group 5 so that it will not conflict with any IT class. The schedule / supps will be updated on DLB later today.

Our original change addressed the STU entrants when we made it (last Friday). After that decision was made, we had several additional STU entrants, some with conflicts. I believe that we have it right now.

Terry

monsterbronco
10-19-2010, 11:33 AM
Thanks for keeping us posted Terry!

dtanthon
10-19-2010, 01:19 PM
I spoke to Smarty earlier this morning. He will be down as well.

http://www.northeastracingtire.com

Wreckerboy
10-20-2010, 11:59 AM
PS - WARNING - if I remember correctly, the dirt on the outside of the 90 deg lefthander after the bridge, right before the exit curb starts, was pretty worn, so that I bent a (very sturdy) wheel when I went from the dug-out dirt onto the curb.

That was a year ago - hope they fixed it - but worth sharing.

Kai, the curbing there is not a problem, but as of July the curbing at the top of the hill just before the bridge (driver's left) is still a rim eater. I know somebody who killed three rims there last year during the SARRC/MARRS challenge.

Greg Amy
10-20-2010, 12:33 PM
... the curbing at the top of the hill just before the bridge (driver's left) is still a rim eater. I know somebody who killed three rims there last year during the SARRC/MARRS challenge.
I remember when I ran that track for the first time, I thought to myself that whoever designed that course BADLY misjudged the lines around it: I don't think there was even one entrance or exit curb in the right place...

Either that, or we all suck.

CRallo
10-20-2010, 01:18 PM
Wes / Chris





A change has been approved to move STU / SPU to Group 5 so that it will not conflict with any IT class. The schedule / supps will be updated on DLB later today.

Our original change addressed the STU entrants when we made it (last Friday). After that decision was made, we had several additional STU entrants, some with conflicts. I believe that we have it right now.

Terry

Yes, thanks Terry! and good work guys!

Kai Noeske
10-20-2010, 03:21 PM
Yes, thanks Terry! and good work guys!

+1. Looking forward!

Finally decided to run both SSC and ITS. Good news for all 'regular' ITS folks: The one race where you *guaranteed* won't come last! :)

Kai Noeske
10-20-2010, 03:30 PM
I remember when I ran that track for the first time, I thought to myself that whoever designed that course BADLY misjudged the lines around it: I don't think there was even one entrance or exit curb in the right place...

Either that, or we all suck.

Was the track designed with a different set of laws of Physics in mind, maybe ? According to one instructor, owners of a certain German car make tend to drive ideal lines that are inconsistent with the Physics of the Common Man... :D

Kai Noeske
10-20-2010, 06:01 PM
Kai, the curbing there is not a problem, but as of July the curbing at the top of the hill just before the bridge (driver's left) is still a rim eater. I know somebody who killed three rims there last year during the SARRC/MARRS challenge.

Thanks for the warning Rob - I know how much of a sacrifice it is for you to remove a possible fail from a Honda Honey's in-car video. :D

First time I am glad the car needs to run its 19 lb "lightweight" stock alloys...!

lateapex911
10-20-2010, 06:11 PM
I'm with Greg, it seems like there are lots of places the curbs are too far along the track at track out, and you slip a bit wide, go 9" off, then BAM, you hit the butt end of the curb. Just after the 'hill", that up and over right hander, at track out looked NASTY when I was last there, and I made sure to not put a wheel off there.
Rob, THREE rims? Fool me once, etc etc etc...your guy isn't a quick learner, is he? LOL

CRallo
10-21-2010, 09:54 AM
Was the track designed with a different set of laws of Physics in mind, maybe ? According to one instructor, owners of a certain German car make tend to drive ideal lines that are inconsistent with the Physics of the Common Man...

:happy204::D:smilie_pokal::023:

CRallo
10-21-2010, 09:59 AM
We'll be there with our ITA 240sx for it's second race weekend ever! Justin will be driving this time, double dipping into STU. This will be his first time even going to a race track in a year and a half!! We'll see if he remembers how to drive... We will be bringing along two crew member friends that I've just gotten interested in the sport. I will be playing crew chief...

I look forward to seeing yous guys there! :)

Wreckerboy
10-21-2010, 11:31 AM
Three rims, no exaggeration, Jake. Mike LaMania, ITA/SM/SSM driver from Jersey just about cleaned Chris Windsor out of his spares that weekend. Mike's learning curve is, well let's just say that this is the same guy I bump drafted down the front straight at SP this year with his car on the rev limiter in fourth gear because he apparently forgot he had five gears to chose from...

joeg
10-21-2010, 11:41 AM
Curious if the RallyX use will affect the track.

CRallo
10-22-2010, 02:11 PM
Curious if the RallyX use will affect the track.

is that this weekend too? sweet!

well the place is sure big enough... might be interesting though, wonder if we'll get a crowd? :blink:



Getting things together... gonna drive out stupid early in the morning and (almost) pull off a knight Rider inspired stunt on the way when i meet up with my team mate :D

ITA looks like quite a hodgepodge... looking forward to seeing the Fiero!

Kai Noeske
10-22-2010, 02:49 PM
I am still the only SSC car... will be slowest in group 7... and will be the rolling chicane in group 3 (double-dipping in ITS).

CRallo
10-22-2010, 04:36 PM
I am still the only SSC car... will be slowest in group 7... and will be the rolling chicane in group 3 (double-dipping in ITS).

Kai, I've seen you drive, you will NOT be the slowest car in group 7! and in group three you will have some ITB guys to run with I'm sure...

It should be good for you, especially being doubled up! you will have 8 sessions on track! if you can't figure it out by then...

dtanthon
10-25-2010, 09:12 AM
Thanks to NNJR and SJR for putting on a fantastic event. Weather was perfect and conditions were great. it is amazing the number of people it takes to make an event work seemless.


From the racing side of things we survived the weekend! Had all kinds of trouble getting to the track on Friday, the water pump failed and the brakes were shot on the truck. The weekend almost ended before it began.

Then when we took the car off the trailer the end of the muffler hit the pavement causing it to ‘tweak.’ The end was bent up a little but the bigger problem was hidden as it pushed the pipe back about an inch. That caused a kink which cause stress on the muffler hanger, a little rubber donut looking thing. I bought new racing tires and off we went. The car doesn’t start! What the heck…. We get it started so now off we go. The tire was rubbing on the muffler so we thought it was just the new tires. Pull back around and take of the right rear to add a spacer. Did qualifying and noticed I was slower than usual. Figured it was me. Came in and checked things, looked OK. Went out into the first race and saw smoke, thought I blew the thing up. Pulled off on the pace lap and watched the first race from the weeds. Got pulled back where we saw what finally failed. The little donut thing broke causing the muffler to hit the tire causing much smoke. So I went from thinking I needed a $3000 new motor to using 29 cents of wire to hold up the muffler after I had 2 guys bend the pipe back (Thanks Rich, Tim and the other dozen or so people that stopped by) . Off to the second race, doesn’t start again, WTF now, jumped it and off we go. Started in the back and worked up my speed. Finished good but I know I can go faster. Done for Saturday.

Sunday rolls around, I have everything ready. Car doesn’t start, WTF now!!!!!! Starter start switch is broken. We get the car running, by having 5 guys push the car. Make it to the race and have a fine battle for 9th place which is right where I should have been.

So most of the trouble was because we rushed getting the car off the trailer and having a weak battery. Moral of the story…… I can’t wait till 2011 to do it all over again!!!!!!!!

Thanks again for all those that let us do this sport!

benspeed
10-25-2010, 10:41 AM
What an excellent weekend of racing. South Jersey Region can really put on an excellent show and the folks at NJMP are really tops. Very efficient, friendly and excellent at taking care of an oiled up track.

ITR/ITS/ITB
I had some brain fade and was late to 2 of the grids. I thought we were third group after lunch and we were second - watched from the motor home with my jaw dropped as the pace car took my run group out for the first qualifying race. Ran and strapped into the car, made it onto the track and was about 3/4 of a lap back when the green waved. Managed to battle up to 9th. Then for qualifying race 2 the car wouldn't start. Turns out the fuel gauge decided to go kooky and we were on fumes, throw 5 gallons in and manage to get out last on the pace lap. Battled from last up to fourth so at least I had a decent starting spot. For the classic race got a good start and took first at T1 but knew I had no grip to stay ahead. Matt Rooke dove to the inside for the lead at the hump and I gave enough racing room to run wide off the track and let about 5-6 cars by. Wished I had hung with Matt and John H. but lost sight of those guys. They were running low 16s and mid 15s all weekend - VERY fast. Battled up to third overall - great time out there.

Classic Race results
ITS
Rooke
Hainsworth
Greggory

ITR - I was the only guy - you folks missed a ton of track time :-(

ITB - don't know

STU
I had better luck with STU and was able to win the two qualifier races. Qualifier race 1 was a good time with Windell - got the time down to a 1:16.5 and was able to win that overall. Windell had motor trouble and dropped out but we did have a nice run together. A fellow (Sean) arrived Sunday with a full on World Challenge BMW so I figured my goose was cooked. Got lucking during the Sunday qualier race 2 when the BMW went off at turn 1 and won that. For the classic race, last one of the season the tires were down to nothing - I think I got about 25 heat cycles out of that set of Hoosiers! It was all I could do to stay in front of the ITS Miatas with no grip. Sorta like an A sedan - stretch it out on power and then dog it in the turns. The BMW finished 1st with a 1:13.9, took second with a slow 1:18.8 - but it was a good challenge to figure out how to adjust the line as the grip dropped away.

STU
BMW - Sean
Phillips
Yannis Tousinas

The season is officially over for BigSpeed - figure a new paint job and some major dyno tuning this winter :-)

benspeed
10-25-2010, 10:44 AM
A big shout out to Chris Rallo in the ITA car - we were paddocked together and these guys are the real deal - thashed on their car during the night to fix ball joint problems and got back out to race. When my car wouldn't start he was right there to lend a hand! That's what SCCA is all about!

Kai Noeske
10-25-2010, 10:57 AM
What everyone above said - a fantastic event, and a total daze of track time galore on an awesome track, with a great crowd, in awesome weather, to end the season.

I drove my car to and from the track - a Civic holds ten (10!) 15" wheels, toolbox, jack & 4 stands, big tub of spares 'n stuff, helmet+suit duffel bag, 5 gal fuel can, clothes, food and drinks for the weekend, and a radio with ipod dock riding on top of the pile :).

Double-dipped SSC and ITS; had some slower ITB and ITA cars to play with. Got pounded once, but could continue driving. 8 sessions - 2 15 min Quals, and 6 races - wow!!!

Noticed I was short on rubber, and Joe from Treadzone had the right size BFGs - he even had a set of *his own hillclimb tires* that were obviously heat-cycled and that he sold me for a good price - how awesome is that? Thanks!

Fist time racing Lightning - had only done a track day in a street car before - learned a lot over the weekend. Had better tires in front on day 1 and got within 2 sec of the ssc track record, which made my day :).

Big Thanks to Mark Gregory for the alignment help, Chris for grid help, and Ben for explaining what happened when there was some paint traded. Was great to see all of you. Hopefully soon next season!

Detailed report on blog soon.

HUGE Thanks to the SNJ SCCA folks and all workers!!!

preparedcivic
10-25-2010, 12:20 PM
Great event at my "home" track put on by the JRB, also my "home" region racing group.

I had a blast, though it started out better than it ended. Saturday qualifying had me the fastest ITB car by 1.7 seconds at a 1:22.9, a full 3 seconds faster than I ran at Lightning back in July. Race 1 had me first in class until I fell off the back of 5 and went off-roading for a while ending up 3rd; race two, which was the last session on Saturday, I had what had to be the sleeve of my suit catch the latch link release on my harness. Driving around the back of the track it felt like the right shoulder strap was loose, looked down while driving around the bend heading to 7 and could see enough that the harness definitely wasn't right. Since that corner can be a busy place, backed way off around the Lightbulb and headed to pit lane to get myself back together. So much for race 2. Race three I got stuck in a bad spot at the start, and had my work cut out for me gettingn around some slower ITS cars. Finally catching what was the 3rd place ITB car, when I got too greedy at the inside 1 and banged my driver's door to RF wheel. No real damage other than a meatball, but the impact was enough to pop the small latch link that holds my window net up! Pull way off driver's left and proceed to spend the next few race laps playing blind monkey trying to type Shakespeare in order to get the rod back in the bracket hole on the main hoop. Finally find it, get the net back up and suck the last two laps of the race.

Over the Winter I most definitely will be investigating eliminating latch links from my restraint systems.........

Oh, and I did manage to need a trip to medical before I left the track too. Stepping out of my trailer, I managed to roll my right ankle, badly spraining it, as well as popping something in my left leg quadricep as I went flailing down to my right. So packing up I could barely walk. Normally the 14 year old son could have pretty much handled it, but he's out of commission with a broken leg, so the wife and 13 year old daughter had to do most of the heavy lifting and crawling under the car to tie it down. Still, we made it home and got all unpacked this morning, but I will be hobbling for at least a week.

But, I'd do it all over again. It was that much fun.

Kai Noeske
10-25-2010, 12:27 PM
Ugh! Sorry to hear Rob! #51 driver and car were definitely a fast combination - I had no business even trying to keep up with you despite the hp advantage.

Sorry that bad luck bit you - I saw you in the vegetation at the exit of 1 but did not know that other stupid things happened afterwards in the paddock.

Hope there is nothing serious with your leg/ankle. It was great to meet you, hope to see you soon again - planning to be out at NJMP next season again.

monsterbronco
10-25-2010, 02:54 PM
Rob you not alone, with the whole weekend starting better then it ended.

I arrived friday evening. got the car off the trailer and had to get an anual for it. that went well.

Saturday morning we go out for group 3 practice. My first time driving the track at speed. so i was rather slow. I doubled up and ran STU as well, so the practice for group 5 went better. I was getting more comfortable and learning the track.

I had a decent start for the first qual race for ITS. got stuck behind some slower cars going into turn one but was able to move along and get into some clean air. I was spending more time getting faster when the the second to last lap i braked for the lightbulb and started to get back on the gas and pop. the motor would rev but was sounding like it was missing and had no power. i came in and went straight to the paddock. compression tester confirmed i had no compression on the front rotor.

I enjoyed meeting some new people and had fun until i blew the motor! motor rebuild was already in the works for this winter, i was just hoping to make it through this weekend.

Wes

Kai Noeske
10-25-2010, 03:28 PM
http://www.treadzone.com

last I heard Joe Specht will be there. I'm going to try the Hankooks on the Mazda.

+11 on Joe. Thanks for pointing him out, will certainly be back to him. Really nice and helpful.

dtanthon
10-28-2010, 01:46 PM
MyLaps are posted.

CRallo
10-29-2010, 08:40 AM
Second race weekend with the #5 ITA Nissan... Justin's first time even going to a track in a year and a half!!!! That said,
J did great! Especially considering his time away from the track, ntm it was a new car and track for him.

Long story short, he even managed a second place finish in ITA starting from the back due to a fuel pump failure in the last QR! In the STU QR2 he made an awesome pass to the finish line and got the position by .015 seconds!!!!!!!!!!! Our photgrapher and I were on the outside watching and our she got an awesome shot!!!!! We could NOT tell who won! neither could the two drivers!


A big shout out to Chris Rallo in the ITA car - we were paddocked together and these guys are the real deal - thashed on their car during the night to fix ball joint problems and got back out to race. When my car wouldn't start he was right there to lend a hand! That's what SCCA is all about!

Good to finally meet you Ben and put a face to the name! Thanks for checking in when we were having issues and offering help! :) Thanks for the props! yea... things got a little complicated when we found that our spares didn't fit :/

Great job running that Porsche! It was FUN to watch you come from the back, even though you did it a few too many times :p


What everyone above said - a fantastic event, and a total daze of track time galore on an awesome track, with a great crowd, in awesome weather, to end the season.

I drove my car to and from the track -
Double-dipped SSC and ITS; had some slower ITB and ITA cars to play with. Got pounded once, but could continue driving. 8 sessions - 2 15 min Quals, and 6 races - wow!!!

Fist time racing Lightning - had only done a track day in a street car before - learned a lot over the weekend. Had better tires in front on day 1 and got within 2 sec of the ssc track record, which made my day :).

Big Thanks to Mark Gregory for the alignment help, Chris for grid help, and Ben for explaining what happened when there was some paint traded. Was great to see all of you. Hopefully soon next season!

Detailed report on blog soon.

HUGE Thanks to the SNJ SCCA folks and all workers!!!

thanks for the props dude. It was great to see you at the track!

huge props to you for DRIVING that thing to the track (and leaving the plate on it) AND driving that fast! good job buddy! :)


MyLaps are posted.

thanks for the hard work Darrel! Never got the chance to come over and say hi... Looked like you sure had some fun out there, one race especially!



Thanks to all for being part of and helping a great event!

CRallo
11-09-2010, 12:27 PM
Pic of the weekend... And yes it was shot on FILM!

J drafted in textbook fashion entering this straight to make this pass right at the Finish!!!!

It was classic, nobody could tell at the time who got the position, not even the drivers. The timesheet revealed that he got the position by .015 seconds... it was for 4th in class but that;'s not the point! It was intense!!!! :D

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x140/BlackFireZ28/ITA%20240sx/photofinish.jpg

photo credit goes to Samantha Mauro (www.samanthamauro.com) who I've managed to get hooked on the sport recently. She will be back next year...

Robert Zecca
11-10-2010, 11:19 AM
Please keep January 22, 2011 open for the SJR region party and NJRRS awards as well. Last year was a blast and this year will be the same and best of all it is FREE.... It is located at NJMP at the Officer's Club at Thunderbolt.

If anyone is interested NNJR is having an Annual Party on December 4th at Hamilton Park in Florham Park. This is a dress-up type of event with great food and music/dancing. The price is $49 per person or $89 per couple. Please email: [email protected] ([email protected]) with any questions or send her a check to: Linda Santangelo-Mosley, PO Box 427, Oak Ridge, NJ 07438
Make the check payable to: NNJR SCCA

Before you know it we will be back on track......