Neohio Double Regional & Pursuit Race

[Racers10]

Online registration is now open for the first race of the season at Nelson Ledges.

http://www.dlbracing.com/default.aspx

May 16-17

Hope to see you there. Remember if you are coming for the National the following weekend you might want to use this as a test session.

Maurice

[ITA_honda]

who else on IT forums plans on attending this event?:shrug:
im in...:026:

[joeg]

You bet!

[boywonder]

I'm tentatively planning on it and I'm pretty sure Jim is also. :eclipsee_steering:

[jumbojimbo]

With the cancellation of the Bluegrass PDX, I am in.

Four of the 12 cars registered are ITC, plus Ryan and me make 6. Group 1, get home at decent hour. Sweet. It's even worth running with SM and ITB.

Ryan, you are missing your car's nickname an a snappy quote in your sig.

[boywonder]

Ryan, you are missing your car's nickname an a snappy quote in your sig.

I'm waiting for it to come back from the paint shop so that I can make sure the nickname is appropriate...

[Andy Bettencourt]

Wat is a 'pursuit race'? Inverted grid? Would like to try something like this someday.

[joeg]

Andy--Finger Lakes likes those events. You measure the relative lap times of the entrants, start the slowest first; fastest last.

Pretty neat if you do not have double yellows.

[ITA_honda]

I'm tentatively planning on it and I'm pretty sure Jim is also. :eclipsee_steering:

you better be coming:D

[jumbojimbo]

I did register in ITC. For some reason I don't show up on the entry list, I have an email in to the registrar.

Which makes 5 cars in ITC. Ryan makes 6. Ahem.

[ITA_honda]

I did register in ITC. For some reason I don't show up on the entry list, I have an email in to the registrar.

Which makes 5 cars in ITC. Ryan makes 6. Ahem.

oh jeez. and that just reminds me...i still have to get my entry in :blink:
im usually always early with signing up. dont know why I forgot. Its only like 2 weeks away!:026:

[jumbojimbo]

If you registered for this event thru DLB please go to DLB and see if you appear on the entry list.

I registered twice for this event thru DLB using paypal and both times I got a reciept from paypal but I did not appear on the registration list. A query to the registrar confirmed I was not registered. I'm not worried about getting my $600 back, I'll either get it from NEO or paypal depending on who ends up with it.

I registered a third time using pay by check and now I do appear.

Today another person registered using paypay and...you guessed it, he does not appear in the entry list.

It seems to me that there is a problem with the dlb to paypal connection for this event (I registered without trouble for the Indy race using paypal). I have a feeling that if you registered by check, you are on the entry list, but if you registered by paypal...

jim

[boywonder]

Yeah, I registered through PayPal on Thursday, received a receipt, and still don't show up on the list. :blink:

[Jim Royal]

My entry makes 8 in ITC, 20 for group 1. I had the same problems with Paypal, ended up writing a check.
Jim Royal

[jumbojimbo]

If you go to paypal under your ACCOUNT under HISTORY you should see your original transaction and it will be in a state of "unclaimed". This indicates that the money has been deducted from you but not yet sent to NEO.

If the transaction is in a state of "unclaimed" you can click the Cancel button and the transaction will be cancelled. To register you will need to go back to DLB and register again and choose the Check option.

I wonder how many other entries are hanging out there? This could be ugly if 40 people show up on Friday thinking they are registered and the registrar has no record of them.

[ITA_honda]

My entry makes 8 in ITC, 20 for group 1. I had the same problems with Paypal, ended up writing a check.
Jim Royal


how many in ITA?:D

[ITA_honda]

Lets go people!!! get your entries in!!!:026:
I was at the NeOhio board meeting last night and there are only about 30 entries total. Not just in group one, all the groups.

haha. meaning there are 20 cars in the IT group (group 1).:D
4 entries so far in ITA.
if that sticks with 4 entries, that will be the smallest ITA field I will run in.:(

[jumbojimbo]

Did anyone at the meeting seem to understand that there are probably more entries out there that have not been completed successfully? That there are people who have attempted to enter using paypal, have a receipt from paypal and believe they have entered but the entry was not successful and NEO has no information about the entry?

I would hate to think that the event would be cancelled because the region mistakenly believed there were fewer entries than there actually are.

I would also hate to think that we are losing entries because people look at the entry and see fewer entries in their class than are they actually are. Fortunately that isn't happening in ITC but it could be happening right now in ITA.

Not to mention the giant hassle we are going to have if a bunch of people arrive at the track thinking they are registered when they are not. Not everyone will be understanding when you try to tell them you want $300 cash when they have already paid money to paypal that did not make it to NEO.

[ITA_honda]

Did anyone at the meeting seem to understand that there are probably more entries out there that have not been completed successfully? That there are people who have attempted to enter using paypal, have a receipt from paypal and believe they have entered but the entry was not successful and NEO has no information about the entry?

I would hate to think that the event would be cancelled because the region mistakenly believed there were fewer entries than there actually are.

I would also hate to think that we are losing entries because people look at the entry and see fewer entries in their class than are they actually are. Fortunately that isn't happening in ITC but it could be happening right now in ITA.

Not to mention the giant hassle we are going to have if a bunch of people arrive at the track thinking they are registered when they are not. Not everyone will be understanding when you try to tell them you want $300 cash when they have already paid money to paypal that did not make it to NEO.


I let the Assistant RE (Debbie LaFond) know yesterday and she sent an email to the RE (Duane Harrington)
I havent heard anything from Duane Harrington yet, so im going to email him this morning. I will let you all know.

[ITA_honda]

GUYS:

I got an email back from Duane Harrington. The RE for NeOhio. He said that the region has been having continuing problems with DLB. They hope to have this corrected in a month or two.

FOR NOW: everyone interested if entering NEEDS TO CONTACT Duane Harrington

His email is: [email protected]

[boywonder]

Yeah, something's not connected correctly between DLB/Paypal/registrar. I finally just canceled the PayPal payment and sent in a check.

I'm really looking forward to this race and it's starting to look like it's going to be ITC Fest.

[ITA_honda]

Yeah, something's not connected correctly between DLB/Paypal/registrar. I finally just canceled the PayPal payment and sent in a check.

I'm really looking forward to this race and it's starting to look like it's going to be ITC Fest.

Yeah, I send in en entry form and check everytime. So I dont have to worry about stuff not working and such LOL.:D
but that doesnt mean that my entry cant get lost in the mail:blink:
to each, his own.

And yes, it looks like there should be some good competition in ITC!:026:

[boywonder]

Now 9 cars signed up in ITC!

Why only five cars total for the pursuit race? I'm tempted to sign-up for it just for the track time, though I wish it were a bit cheaper...

[CaptJon]

Just an idea but shouldn't 9 ITC cars qualify to have their own run group???? They could bump the one FM in with the other formula cars & let the C cars have at it without having to worry about faster cars ummmm.... cars in other classes, Yeah, thats what i mean cars in other classes lapping us. It could be our own little ITC Fest.

Have ITC's EVER run by themselves at a regional race??

[ITA_honda]

Just an idea but shouldn't 9 ITC cars qualify to have their own run group???? They could bump the one FM in with the other formula cars & let the C cars have at it without having to worry about faster cars ummmm.... cars in other classes, Yeah, thats what i mean cars in other classes lapping us. It could be our own little ITC Fest.

Have ITC's EVER run by themselves at a regional race??

there will be some changes in the grouping. Ill know for sure by tomorrow (wednesday). They're taking ITA out of group 1. so the ITC boys done have to worry about the faster ITA cars catching them at the end.
Group 2 will most likely be combined with group 6.
ill let you guys know.

[jumbojimbo]

The toilet is unclogged. One of the guys here who is just slightly smarter than me had the bright idea to contact DLB directly.

Issue: an incorrect email address was used for the paypal address. Since the paypal transactions weren't going thru, dlb wasn't getting notified of the payment so there were a bunch of entries sitting in a pending payment status.

Sounded like the region was going to contact those affected and have them bring a check and cancel the paypal transaction.

The good news is there were more entries that it appeared on the entry list a couple of days ago. I don't know if the current entry list now includes those affected. The entry list stands at 66. That might be everyone or there might still be some hiding. But at least it is a reasonable number.

The bad news is that there are now 9 ITA cars. So the ITC dominance is somewhat diminished. Let's hope there is another Renault hiding out there.

[ITA_honda]

The toilet is unclogged. One of the guys here who is just slightly smarter than me had the bright idea to contact DLB directly.

Issue: an incorrect email address was used for the paypal address. Since the paypal transactions weren't going thru, dlb wasn't getting notified of the payment so there were a bunch of entries sitting in a pending payment status.

Sounded like the region was going to contact those affected and have them bring a check and cancel the paypal transaction.

The good news is there were more entries that it appeared on the entry list a couple of days ago. I don't know if the current entry list now includes those affected. The entry list stands at 66. That might be everyone or there might still be some hiding. But at least it is a reasonable number.

The bad news is that there are now 9 ITA cars. So the ITC dominance is somewhat diminished. Let's hope there is another Renault hiding out there.


nope, we've been moved back to group 5 with the production boys :-( I wanted to run all IT together. oh well. I can watch ya'll out on the track in the early morning qualifying!

[jay05]

nope, we've been moved back to group 5 with the production boys :-( I wanted to run all IT together. oh well. I can watch ya'll out on the track in the early morning qualifying!
It's like watching A, but in slow motion.

[AjG]

geez... ITB is looking weak. I know of 2 other cars coming that aren't listed... that makes 5.

Any other ITB cars?

[ITA_honda]

:D
It's like watching A, but in slow motion.


haha. yeah. I like watching the B and C guys. Cause ITA is usually grouped with the ITS boys.
hmmm but we're with the prod group. either those cars will be REALLY FAST or REALLY SLOW! LOL. and dripping oil on the track:blink:

[ITA_honda]

geez... ITB is looking weak. I know of 2 other cars coming that aren't listed... that makes 5.

Any other ITB cars?

looks like its going to be the Pinto domination this weekend:happy204:
you guys are freakin awesome!

[ITA_honda]

As of now, there are going to be 5 groups


Drivers: BE SURE TO CHECK AT REGISTRATION TO SEE IF ANYMORE CLASSES HAVE BEEN MOVED!!!

[ITA_honda]

Just got word there are currently 10 entered in ITA.
somehow when word goes out about a race there are few ITA entries, then at the last minute there are a lot!

yeah yeah i know, what do you want from us ITA guys :D

but all the IT groups combined still make up 50% of the entries:026:

see you all this weekend!

[ITA_honda]

Be prepared Boys:

looks like a 60-70% chance of rain all day Saturday.
Remember your "rain" lines at Nelson!

this could get interesting:D

[jay05]

Remember your "rain" lines at Nelson!

Through the grass?

[ITA_honda]

Through the grass?

in some cases, yes.
try to keep it on the track.
going thru the grass at Nelson's isnt always good:blink:

[boywonder]

...going thru the grass at Nelson's isnt always good:blink:

touché :(

[gpeluso]

had a good time......second time at Nelson's and first in the rain....wow. I was surprised when I registered at the track I had to pay a late fee for both days...$415.. I was reading about the interent problems and thought that they would take it easy on me....guess NOT! Will only do planned events now.

Greg Peluso
SM but want back into ITS

[dj10]

had a good time......second time at Nelson's and first in the rain....wow. I was surprised when I registered at the track I had to pay a late fee for both days...$415.. I was reading about the interent problems and thought that they would take it easy on me....guess NOT! Will only do planned events now.

Greg Peluso
SM but want back into ITS

Greg, sorry to hear that. That late fee is BS and I would have told them to stick their race and went home if I lived as close as you do. How'd you do?

[joeg]

That was a very nice weekend.

The weather is always interesting at Nelson.

[ITA_honda]

I had an interesting weekend.

Finished 2nd Saturday in the wet. The rain is the great equalizer!! And we were all on dries:blink:

After the race i said to myslef (am I crazy or what?) haha, but wow!

Sunday came home 4th. Those Colletti boys are real fast!!

How did everyone else do??

[jumbojimbo]

I had a great time. That's the first time I've ever camped and it was a lot of fun. Got to spend some time sitting around the fire getting to know people. It might sound corny, but it was as much fun spending time with fellow competitors than it was running the races. Ok, it wasn't as good as Saturday's race in the rain, but it was a hell of a lot better than Sunday's 1.3 laps and a DNF.

Seems like I owe Jayson several beers. Does he really only drink MGD or something? That's a pretty good trade, he gives me a couple of nice micros and a Paulie Girl and I pay him back with Miller at MO? And thanks to Jim for the homebrew. mmm, sweet beer.

For anyone who's never been to Nelson, you really should go. The atmosphere is so friendly. You feel like part of the family instead of feeling like a number. The bathrooms are clean, the showers are quaint, but they do work. You can ride your bike around the track and nobody hassles you. Overall if you are willing to put up with a few less amenties, the payback is worth it.

NEOhio did a good job putting on the races. A run group was dropped and this is the first time I've been to a race that used that time to add to qualifying time. Usually the track just sits empty for the extra time. I'm glad we were able to use the time.

Oh, how'd I do: 3rd in the rain on Saturday. DNF on Sunday. I probably didn't deserve 3rd on Saturday, several people dropped out. But I'm not going to turn it down.

[dj10]

Who smashed into the ITS 07 bmw @ turn 1, I believe it was a AS. What penalty did the stewards give him? From what I heard the guy deserved the penalty.

[gpeluso]

Hey Dan...
missed seeing you tear-up the field.... I did ok...2nd in the rain and 4th in the dry...first full weekend at Nelson's....bumpy but pretty fun....except for the cost $100 extra bucks...I see $50, but $100....by the looks of the turn out they must have needed it.

Greg

[R2 Racing]

That's the first time I've ever camped and it was a lot of fun. Got to spend some time sitting around the fire getting to know people. It might sound corny, but it was as much fun spending time with fellow competitors than it was running the races.
I wouldn't even consider racing without staying at the track. You're right about thinking that hanging out with your racing buddies and drinking beer around a campfire is half the fun of a race weekend, because it is. My entire racing experience would be vastly different if I didn't do that, and I don't think for the better. Some of my fellow racers have become very, very good friends of mine by just hanging out at the track. Hang out at Mid Ohio, and you'll see the same thing. We always have a pretty good time there.

[dj10]

Hey Dan...
missed seeing you tear-up the field.... I did ok...2nd in the rain and 4th in the dry...first full weekend at Nelson's....bumpy but pretty fun....except for the cost $100 extra bucks...I see $50, but $100....by the looks of the turn out they must have needed it.

Greg

R U racing Beaver on the 6th? I might use Sat. as a test day.

[ITA_honda]

I had a great time. That's the first time I've ever camped and it was a lot of fun. Got to spend some time sitting around the fire getting to know people. It might sound corny, but it was as much fun spending time with fellow competitors than it was running the races. Ok, it wasn't as good as Saturday's race in the rain, but it was a hell of a lot better than Sunday's 1.3 laps and a DNF.

Seems like I owe Jayson several beers. Does he really only drink MGD or something? That's a pretty good trade, he gives me a couple of nice micros and a Paulie Girl and I pay him back with Miller at MO? And thanks to Jim for the homebrew. mmm, sweet beer.

For anyone who's never been to Nelson, you really should go. The atmosphere is so friendly. You feel like part of the family instead of feeling like a number. The bathrooms are clean, the showers are quaint, but they do work. You can ride your bike around the track and nobody hassles you. Overall if you are willing to put up with a few less amenties, the payback is worth it.

NEOhio did a good job putting on the races. A run group was dropped and this is the first time I've been to a race that used that time to add to qualifying time. Usually the track just sits empty for the extra time. I'm glad we were able to use the time.

Oh, how'd I do: 3rd in the rain on Saturday. DNF on Sunday. I probably didn't deserve 3rd on Saturday, several people dropped out. But I'm not going to turn it down.


It was good to finally meet you. Nice job on Saturday, but Sunday was OK too. Thats racing, things happen.
I was always thrilled to see how many people I met in my rookie year. Im a people person, and hanging out with my buddies at the end of the day is worth it! Im not 21 yet though, I turn 21 this July....so.

And Jay keeps telling me they have an "open cooler" policy. HAHA. I told him in July! that guy cracks me up. When you get a chance, go over to their paddock and hang out (which im sure you have already) Its a good time.

[ITA_honda]

Who smashed into the ITS 07 bmw @ turn 1, I believe it was a AS. What penalty did the stewards give him? From what I heard the guy deserved the penalty.


Im not sure, I heard something about an incident but I dont know who did it.

[gpeluso]

Dan,
see you at Beaverun...after jim straightens me out.....................

Greg

[jay05]

The weekend turned out good, but because of others misfortunes. Saturday in the ran Bill just walked away. He can really move that think in the rain. Until he dropped a valve. Hopefully he's got it sorted. The Miata on the tire wall that went of on the 1st lap was a constant reminder to not to push it. Sunday was a blast. Other than almost rolling in 3 in the morning. In the lead on lap 2 miss a shift Jon walks right by me. The next 5 laps we spent drafting each other on the backstretch and side-by-side from the kink to T4. I got some room on him and he lost a wheel going into one. It would have been a great finish. Remember if Jon ever tells you his car is garbage and he's lucky to run 1:26's. That really means he's going to run 1:23's. Sorry to see Ryan's beautifully painted car get a little dinged. I have some blue duct tape for ya.

Jim, Miller Light. Yes, we have an open cooler policy and if you need that cup of joe in the morning, we have you covered also. Nelson Ledges is such a great place to race. I'm always running late for grid, because I'm too busy yacking it up with someone. Everyone seems so open and friendly. You take the same people and put them in MO, they become quiet and to themselves. MO just stresses everyone out, because you always feel like your breaking a rule when you're having fun. Hope to see all you guys at MO in less than 2 weeks.

[ITA_honda]

The weekend turned out good, but because of others misfortunes. Saturday in the ran Bill just walked away. He can really move that think in the rain. Until he dropped a valve. Hopefully he's got it sorted. The Miata on the tire wall that went of on the 1st lap was a constant reminder to not to push it. Sunday was a blast. Other than almost rolling in 3 in the morning. In the lead on lap 2 miss a shift Jon walks right by me. The next 5 laps we spent drafting each other on the backstretch and side-by-side from the kink to T4. I got some room on him and he lost a wheel going into one. It would have been a great finish. Remember if Jon ever tells you his car is garbage and he's lucky to run 1:26's. That really means he's going to run 1:23's. Sorry to see Ryan's beautifully painted car get a little dinged. I have some blue duct tape for ya.

Jim, Miller Light. Yes, we have an open cooler policy and if you need that cup of joe in the morning, we have you covered also. Nelson Ledges is such a great place to race. I'm always running late for grid, because I'm too busy yacking it up with someone. Everyone seems so open and friendly. You take the same people and put them in MO, they become quiet and to themselves. MO just stresses everyone out, because you always feel like your breaking a rule when you're having fun. Hope to see all you guys at MO in less than 2 weeks.

Mid-Ohio is, I dont know how to discribe it...not as "friendly" as Nelson. But I do like the track. I mean the people there are usually the same which is cool. But when I went down there I paddocked in one corner by myslef LOL. it was peaceful.
I guess since the IRL, Lemans, world challenge go there you feel like "big stuff" and maybe thats why the atmosphere there isnt as good???
It doesnt matter, Im there to race.:026:
and hang out with my friends of course:D

[CaptJon]

How did MY weekend go???? A loose battery cable shorted out a bunch of electronics in saturdays race that we didnt figure out until sunday morning. At 7:45AM. Rain tires still on the car from saturday. Dash is still torn apart. And I had already been to registration to withdraw from sundays race. Oh yeah one other thing, my crew was still in bed. Woke them & they did a wonderful job of getting things ready on the car. We made it on track about 5 minutes after everyone else did so I did get some good qualifying times. The start of the race was exciting as Jim made a good pass on me going into 2. After I got back by him the real race started with Jason. I think that is the most fun I have EVER had racing. Once we hooked up we never had more than 15 feet between us. Then there was that small mechanical failure. My on board camera even got the tire as it bounced over the tire wall as I was bouncing through the grass. Lots of work to do on the car but it should be ready for the ITFest.

Have to thank everyone that checked on me both saturday & sunday. It really means alot when people care enough see if there is anything they can do to help get someone back out onto the track.

Great people. Great racing. You can't ask for much else.

[ITA_honda]

How did MY weekend go???? A loose battery cable shorted out a bunch of electronics in saturdays race that we didnt figure out until sunday morning. At 7:45AM. Rain tires still on the car from saturday. Dash is still torn apart. And I had already been to registration to withdraw from sundays race. Oh yeah one other thing, my crew was still in bed. Woke them & they did a wonderful job of getting things ready on the car. We made it on track about 5 minutes after everyone else did so I did get some good qualifying times. The start of the race was exciting as Jim made a good pass on me going into 2. After I got back by him the real race started with Jason. I think that is the most fun I have EVER had racing. Once we hooked up we never had more than 15 feet between us. Then there was that small mechanical failure. My on board camera even got the tire as it bounced over the tire wall as I was bouncing through the grass. Lots of work to do on the car but it should be ready for the ITFest.

Have to thank everyone that checked on me both saturday & sunday. It really means alot when people care enough see if there is anything they can do to help get someone back out onto the track.

Great people. Great racing. You can't ask for much else.


you and jay had a heck of a race man! I was watching you guys from everywhere!!! turn 1,2,3,4, the kink, 12 and 13! sorry about the bad luck but you had a good weekend overall!!

[jay05]

I think that is the most fun I have EVER had racing.
Same here. What a blast. I guess 2 wide in T3 is possible. Hope you can get fixed in time.

[RedMisted]

Had a great time, even though I had no competition in ITR. The best part of the weekend for me was beating a T-2 Camaro on Sat. And of course, seeing my good friend Dr. Dan complete the requirements for his regional license in his ITE (ex-NASA AIX)Pontiac Firebird was as thrilling for me as it was for him.:eclipsee_steering:

[boywonder]

We had a blast! This was my first race weekend and since I'm quickly learning that this sport will drain my bank account my wife and I decided to camp at the track and save some cash. Camping together was also a first...but we survived. We were very pleased to learn that most everyone was super friendly at the track and enjoyed hanging out with Jim R and Jay and their ladies, and of course Jim H is always a hoot (I just hope his car is OK).

Qualifying on Saturday was held during perfect conditions and I managed to shave a little over a second off my previous best time at that track - while also qualifying only .06 seconds behind Jim. Whoo hoo! :D

Unfortunately the heavens opened up about a half hour before the start of our race and it really poured. While on the grid I learned that only my passenger wiper worked...thankfully the track is primarily right handers. I kept it together pretty well during our race despite the lack of visibility, lack of rain tires, lack of experience (my first race remember) and still not being good at adjusting my line to a "rain line." I had a pretty good start, picked the right cars to follow, and the right places to pass and passed quite a few cars during the first couple of laps. But then in the fourth lap I spun on the inside of the Carousel. :(

Watching the video it looks like I carried a bit too much speed into the corner and after that there was nothing I could do but hold on and pray that I could keep it on the inside and not go across and off the outside. Of course the spin cost me all the places I had picked up so I backed off after that and decided to just try to figure out how to race in the wet. I can't say that I really figured it out because I spun one more time that race (this time in turn two) but I'm going to count having only two spins as marked improvement over the numerous spins I had at Putnam Park a month ago. Oh yeah...half way through the race my other wiper decided to work - once. It flung across the windshield and lodged itself under the driver's door mirror. So then I had to shut the wipers off altogether. Lesson # 371: visibility is important. I started 17th and finished about the same I think.

Sunday was gorgeous but the car gave me all kinds of fits during qualifying. First it wouldn't start when it was time to grid. Finally I got it started and after three or four additional starts I made it to the grid where it died four or five more times while waiting to go out on the track. Then it died between pit exit and turn 1, and four more times that first lap. I brought it into the pits and hopped out and looked over everything and it all looked fine. So I kicked, tapped and spit on it and went back out and while it didn't run well, it did stop dying every turn. Now it was only stumbling coming out of the Carousel and dying while flat out in the kink and while under threshold braking going into 12. Fun. :cool:
I'm not sure what my lap times or final qualifying time were like but I'm guessing not good. However everyone else must have been having trouble too because I again qualified 17th.

I came in after qualifying and changed the fuel filter (which ended up looking fine), and after talking to Steve Colletti also swapped out the distributor. After installing the distributor the car wouldn't start so after some trouble shooting we figured out that I somehow installed the distributor 180º off, (even though it should be impossible because the teeth are offset...?) but without time to take it off and re-install Steve had the bright idea to just switch the plug wire order on the cap. Duh! So then it fired right up and off I went to the grid. My start wasn't as good today thanks to the Pinto in front of me but after a few laps I passed him and a few others. The car still bogged down exiting the Carousel but otherwise felt pretty good and resisted dying while I had my right foot planted. I didn't realize it but I made it up to 2nd in my class (unfortunately a few of those spots were because Jim and Jim dropped out) and decent way up in the overall pack. But... with a lap and a half to go I spun in the carousel and went into the tire wall. :eek:
I'm still unsure what I did wrong but I started to turn down to hit the apex and the car decided it didn't want to turn and instead started understeering up the track. I nearly made it but the driver's rear dropped off into the grass and took me on a magical mystery tour backwards and all the way around and up onto the tire wall. Banged up the front bumper and driver's side front fender and cut a brake line but otherwise I think it's OK. The tow truck pulled me off the wall and I managed to drive it in under its own power. I had enough laps in to be counted as an official finisher though, so now with these two races under my belt I have enough to trade in my novice permit for a regional license.

Afterwards I did more damage to the car though; thanks to a large dip where the trailer was parked I managed to the bottom the car out on the tie-down eyelet on the trailer and ripped a 8" gash in the passenger floor. Oh, and then damaged myself while strapping the car down by striking my head on the license plate holder that the wrecker had bent when dislodging me from the wall. Ugh. We did make it home without further incident though.

So it was a weekend full of ups and downs, some that could of been prevented, some that come with inexperience, and some that are just part of racing. Overall it was a good education though and I'm looking forward to Mid-Ohio in a few weeks.

I have a decent amount of video from both days up on YouTube, you can find them here: http://www.youtube.com/user/placidchaos

[ITA_honda]

We had a blast! This was my first race weekend and since I'm quickly learning that this sport will drain my bank account my wife and I decided to camp at the track and save some cash. Camping together was also a first...but we survived. We were very pleased to learn that most everyone was super friendly at the track and enjoyed hanging out with Jim R and Jay and their ladies, and of course Jim H is always a hoot (I just hope his car is OK).

Qualifying on Saturday was held during perfect conditions and I managed to shave a little over a second off my previous best time at that track - while also qualifying only .06 seconds behind Jim. Whoo hoo! :D

Unfortunately the heavens opened up about a half hour before the start of our race and it really poured. While on the grid I learned that only my passenger wiper worked...thankfully the track is primarily right handers. I kept it together pretty well during our race despite the lack of visibility, lack of rain tires, lack of experience (my first race remember) and still not being good at adjusting my line to a "rain line." I had a pretty good start, picked the right cars to follow, and the right places to pass and passed quite a few cars during the first couple of laps. But then in the fourth lap I spun on the inside of the Carousel. :(

Watching the video it looks like I carried a bit too much speed into the corner and after that there was nothing I could do but hold on and pray that I could keep it on the inside and not go across and off the outside. Of course the spin cost me all the places I had picked up so I backed off after that and decided to just try to figure out how to race in the wet. I can't say that I really figured it out because I spun one more time that race (this time in turn two) but I'm going to count having only two spins as marked improvement over the numerous spins I had at Putnam Park a month ago. Oh yeah...half way through the race my other wiper decided to work - once. It flung across the windshield and lodged itself under the driver's door mirror. So then I had to shut the wipers off altogether. Lesson # 371: visibility is important. I started 17th and finished about the same I think.

Sunday was gorgeous but the car gave me all kinds of fits during qualifying. First it wouldn't start when it was time to grid. Finally I got it started and after three or four additional starts I made it to the grid where it died four or five more times while waiting to go out on the track. Then it died between pit exit and turn 1, and four more times that first lap. I brought it into the pits and hopped out and looked over everything and it all looked fine. So I kicked, tapped and spit on it and went back out and while it didn't run well, it did stop dying every turn. Now it was only stumbling coming out of the Carousel and dying while flat out in the kink and while under threshold braking going into 12. Fun. :cool:
I'm not sure what my lap times or final qualifying time were like but I'm guessing not good. However everyone else must have been having trouble too because I again qualified 17th.

I came in after qualifying and changed the fuel filter (which ended up looking fine), and after talking to Steve Colletti also swapped out the distributor. After installing the distributor the car wouldn't start so after some trouble shooting we figured out that I somehow installed the distributor 180º off, (even though it should be impossible because the teeth are offset...?) but without time to take it off and re-install Steve had the bright idea to just switch the plug wire order on the cap. Duh! So then it fired right up and off I went to the grid. My start wasn't as good today thanks to the Pinto in front of me but after a few laps I passed him and a few others. The car still bogged down exiting the Carousel but otherwise felt pretty good and resisted dying while I had my right foot planted. I didn't realize it but I made it up to 2nd in my class (unfortunately a few of those spots were because Jim and Jim dropped out) and decent way up in the overall pack. But... with a lap and a half to go I spun in the carousel and went into the tire wall. :eek:
I'm still unsure what I did wrong but I started to turn down to hit the apex and the car decided it didn't want to turn and instead started understeering up the track. I nearly made it but the driver's rear dropped off into the grass and took me on a magical mystery tour backwards and all the way around and up onto the tire wall. Banged up the front bumper and driver's side front fender and cut a brake line but otherwise I think it's OK. The tow truck pulled me off the wall and I managed to drive it in under its own power. I had enough laps in to be counted as an official finisher though, so now with these two races under my belt I have enough to trade in my novice permit for a regional license.

Afterwards I did more damage to the car though; thanks to a large dip where the trailer was parked I managed to the bottom the car out on the tie-down eyelet on the trailer and ripped a 8" gash in the passenger floor. Oh, and then damaged myself while strapping the car down by striking my head on the license plate holder that the wrecker had bent when dislodging me from the wall. Ugh. We did make it home without further incident though.

So it was a weekend full of ups and downs, some that could of been prevented, some that come with inexperience, and some that are just part of racing. Overall it was a good education though and I'm looking forward to Mid-Ohio in a few weeks.

I have a decent amount of video from both days up on YouTube, you can find them here: http://www.youtube.com/user/placidchaos

I already saw your video on Monday. Nicely done!

[cjb25hs]

Any results posted yet?

[ITA_honda]

Any results posted yet?


no results posted yet that I know of....

[jay05]

mylaps?

[cjb25hs]

mylaps?

Not that I have seen yet!

[ITA_honda]

Not that I have seen yet!


Chris - any idea on how many ITA entries there will be for Beaverun? I cant seem to find the info anywhere and Steel Cities isnt registering thru DLB racing that i know of

[cjb25hs]

Chris - any idea on how many ITA entries there will be for Beaverun? I cant seem to find the info anywhere and Steel Cities isnt registering thru DLB racing that i know of

Not sure at this point. Steel cities uses the NESCCA Site for registration as well as the old fashioned way. I will find out and let you know, but I figured it would be most of the Kryder/Nelson crowd.

[teritanz25]

Does anyone know whom we can contact to please ask them to post the results of this race..Its been over two weeks now with nothing..The national results from last weekend from Nelsons were posted early Monday morning. Not trying to sound rude but would be really like to have the lap charts available. Thank you in advance if someone can get them posted.

[RedMisted]

Does anyone know whom we can contact to please ask them to post the results of this race..Its been over two weeks now with nothing..The national results from last weekend from Nelsons were posted early Monday morning. Not trying to sound rude but would be really like to have the lap charts available. Thank you in advance if someone can get them posted.

I hear you. I'm waiting, too. Unfortunately, things with the Neohio region can sometimes move slower than molasses. The Nelson Nationals were a Mahoning Valley event, and the Kryders are always timely and punctual with posting any results and information.

[Hahn63]

Hey guys , found out there is a minor computer glitch holding up the posting of the my laps results. I understand it should be solved sometime this week. I'll let you know if I get an update.

Roland

[datadude]

I hear you. I'm waiting, too. Unfortunately, things with the Neohio region can sometimes move slower than molasses. The Nelson Nationals were a Mahoning Valley event, and the Kryders are always timely and punctual with posting any results and information.
Hate to tell you this but Neohio has been the on time poster if you will look back, I know. Neohi may be slow on some stuff but this topic has never been the case. I don't think that posting 24 hour results during a 24 hours is late nor do I think that waiting till you get home and the next day to make sure all is in order is out of the question.The poster is no longer there and learning process and computer virus has it all stuck. Neohio also posted all the MidO, ORP and all non Steel Cities events. Just pull up Neohio as an organization from the Mayfield address and see all it posts.
Give the new Chief a break. Don't know if any of the MidO sessions will be posted because their chief has never posted one, it has always been done through Neohio with a lot of "please send me files" emails.

[datadude]

I hear you. I'm waiting, too. Unfortunately, things with the Neohio region can sometimes move slower than molasses. The Nelson Nationals were a Mahoning Valley event, and the Kryders are always timely and punctual with posting any results and information.

http://www.sccabb.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8104&PN=1 This is the link to the Official Results page on SCCA forums for the Neohio double regional results. That is where all of the Official results are posted for everyone over the country. The Neohio results have been up since the 27th and the Chief of T&S has 5 days after the event to get them to SCCA and then they post it.

[RedMisted]

http://www.sccabb.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=8104&PN=1 This is the link to the Official Results page on SCCA forums for the Neohio double regional results. That is where all of the Official results are posted for everyone over the country. The Neohio results have been up since the 27th and the Chief of T&S has 5 days after the event to get them to SCCA and then they post it.


I apologize for any confusion, but I was referring to the posting of race lap charts to mylaps.com. I already had the SCCA overall results from the Neohio weekend.

[spdmonkey]

What datadude is too nice to say is that realistically don't expect the files to get posted to mylaps like they were in the past. Datadude has been doing that for almost every GLDiv region for the past few years and now that she has moved south its up to someone else. I personally thank you for all your service con. I hope that those now working on it figure it out.

db

[Hahn63]

I know for a fact that if it wasn't for the computer issue our new T&S Chief would have had them posted already. Also did anyone even notice how quickly the results were avalible at the event! Come on guys, you know how fustrating computer issues can be , cut her some slack. What those people have to do to even give you the results quickly at the track is down right overwhelming, let alone posting them every where else the following week and working thier real jobs to boot!

[ITA_honda]

I know for a fact that if it wasn't for the computer issue our new T&S Chief would have had them posted already. Also did anyone even notice how quickly the results were avalible at the event! Come on guys, you know how fustrating computer issues can be , cut her some slack. What those people have to do to even give you the results quickly at the track is down right overwhelming, let alone posting them every where else the following week and working thier real jobs to boot!


it was quite fast.....like ferrari!!! go go go LOL.

[Hahn63]

lol

[RedMisted]

it was quite fast.....like ferrari!!! go go go LOL.


Yeah, I was surprised the results were made available so quickly after each session. Hats off to T&S there....As for the mylaps.com situation, I guess I'll just wait patiently for the computer problems to be sorted.

[datadude]

The results for the Neohio Double Regional are now up on Mylaps. Search Neoho and you will find them. :happy204:

[sapphire]

What datadude is too nice to say is that realistically don't expect the files to get posted to mylaps like they were in the past. Datadude has been doing that for almost every GLDiv region for the past few years and now that she has moved south its up to someone else. I personally thank you for all your service con. I hope that those now working on it figure it out.

db

The results have been posted. I apologize for the delay. I had issues with my own personal computer that needed to be taken care of, and allergy season hit and I didn't even know I had allergies.

Con trained me well before she moved and this was my first event from begining to end. I had never posted to mylaps before, but I got er done. The next few events I do I promise to have them posted much sooner, but I do still have a real job to go to, so give me a few days.
Thanks for your patience.

[ITA_honda]

The results have been posted. I apologize for the delay. I had issues with my own personal computer that needed to be taken care of, and allergy season hit and I didn't even know I had allergies.

Con trained me well before she moved and this was my first event from begining to end. I had never posted to mylaps before, but I got er done. The next few events I do I promise to have them posted much sooner, but I do still have a real job to go to, so give me a few days.
Thanks for your patience.


dont sweat, you did well for your first time:happy204:

[jay05]

The results have been posted. I apologize for the delay. I had issues with my own personal computer that needed to be taken care of, and allergy season hit and I didn't even know I had allergies.

Con trained me well before she moved and this was my first event from begining to end. I had never posted to mylaps before, but I got er done. The next few events I do I promise to have them posted much sooner, but I do still have a real job to go to, so give me a few days.
Thanks for your patience.

Thanks for you're hard work!