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JimLill
01-18-2008, 05:44 PM
This seems to be a hot topic, I am holding out until start of season. How many already own them?

shwah
01-18-2008, 06:02 PM
Wierd that ISAAC is not on the list, since we know lots of people use one - including me.

JimLill
01-18-2008, 06:04 PM
It was and when I added the 2nd Hutchens, I screwed it up

erlrich
01-18-2008, 06:11 PM
Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac
Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac
Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac
Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac - Isaac

Is that 10 characters yet?

JimLill
01-18-2008, 06:15 PM
I sent a request to the front office to add Isaac and he can also amend numbers. vB is pretty firndly like that if you have the admin privs

spnkzss
01-18-2008, 06:56 PM
Isaac times however many characters need to be added since the word Isaac is too short

PSherm
01-18-2008, 07:02 PM
No option for none?

pballance
01-18-2008, 07:20 PM
Isaac for me

philstireservice
01-18-2008, 07:58 PM
Isaac !!!!!!!!!!

Speed Raycer
01-18-2008, 08:03 PM
AGHHH!!!! SFI must be specing the Polls now!!!!

Isaac all the way!

dj10
01-18-2008, 08:04 PM
.............none

lateapex911
01-18-2008, 08:49 PM
I love my Isaac..........

JimLill
01-18-2008, 09:12 PM
Maybe the Webmaster can fix the #'s to reflect Isaac properly.........
Vb allows him to do that

Greg Amy
01-18-2008, 09:46 PM
Partially fixed. Isaac added, but I don't know to where to move the votes. If you voted for something other than Isaac, **PM** me with what you voted for and I'll move the vote. - GA

Z3_GoCar
01-19-2008, 12:45 AM
R3 because....

1) BMW club racing has required SFI spec'ed H&R for the past two seasons.

2) Of all the SFI H&N restraints it works even after belts stretch and get loose.

Do I think SFI is the end all of safety spec's for H&N? No. But if I want to run with BMW club, then SFI is required.

James

JimLill
01-19-2008, 08:22 AM
Does somebody actually have a Leatt?

Campbell
01-19-2008, 09:05 AM
I use a Wright device (category: other) until the dust settles on all the issues.

Greg Amy
01-19-2008, 10:21 AM
As per a PM, all but one of the LFT R3 votes were moved to Isaac. If there's more than one LFT user out there, please let me know. - GA

Wreckerboy
01-19-2008, 10:43 AM
Hmm, a ten letter response for "H & N device." Can I have a ISAAC, Alec?

tom91ita
01-19-2008, 02:18 PM
i voted "other" and some may claim that i have "none"

when my "horse collar" came out, it was supposed to be good for up to 50 g's or some other type of rating. it is rather stiff material compared to most and has a contoured fit around the shoulder.

edit to add link:

http://www.bellracing.com/productdetail.asp?sec=product&catid=5&prodid=40

Xian
01-19-2008, 05:01 PM
Isaac for me :)

Knestis
01-19-2008, 06:01 PM
FYI, conversations about the Racing Safety Institute and a community-driven advisory body (of which our own Jake Gulick has been nominated Grand Poobah) have found a home at...

http://roadrace-autox.com/bbs/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=6

We wanted to try to localize conversation to avoid having to visit multiple sites and threads in order to keep up. If you care about the issues spinning around safety equipment in club racing right now, take a look and consider participating in the conversation.

More information about RSI is at http://racingsafetyinstitute.org

K

MMiskoe
01-19-2008, 11:23 PM
How about a 2 sentence description on why ones choice was made.

I went Hans because it made for a common H&N amoungst the other people I co-drive enduros with. At the time, the Isaac was unclear how difficult it would be to do a driver change.

Matt

Knestis
01-19-2008, 11:30 PM
I chose the Isaac because the test data was excellent and because we could use the same device for multiple enduro drivers, with just the addition of helmet lugs, rather than everyone having to spend that same amount of dough.

K

RacerBill
01-20-2008, 02:54 AM
Simpson Horse Collar

gsbaker
01-20-2008, 09:14 AM
Do we get one vote for every one we have?

lateapex911
01-20-2008, 11:19 AM
Why would that matter, Gregg, I am sure you are perpetually sold out....riiggghht?? ;)

BBeasley
01-20-2008, 11:23 AM
Hans plus some more leters

fiat124girl
01-20-2008, 05:45 PM
I plan on buying a HANS device sometime this year for Jude. That way he can share it with his sister when she rally's.

gsbaker
01-20-2008, 07:54 PM
Why would that matter, Gregg, I am sure you are perpetually sold out....riiggghht?? ;)
Odd you should mention that--we're having to order more components already.

gsbaker
01-21-2008, 09:22 AM
Who has the Leatt Moto-R?

240zdave
01-21-2008, 10:06 AM
I'm stilll running my original Hutchen's Device, waiting on the dust to settle. The only thing stopping me from getting an Isaac is worry that the powers that be will jump back in and decide that HNR devices are mandatory, and only SFI devices are approved.

Mad Mike
01-21-2008, 11:36 AM
How about a 2 sentence description on why ones choice was made.
Matt

Two sentences?!? :eek:

I don't own an HNR because not once since driving my first stage rally in 1977 or the ten years I've road-raced on & off since 1983 have I driven head-on into any non-moving object (Taken in total I've pranged three roofs ...

http://www.realautosport.com/pics/LSPR2000/Flipped.jpg

and every panel on a car/truck EXCEPT the front bumper). Reflecting on all the race/rally carnage I've lived through I can't think of a time an HNR would have helped since the bulk of my injuries have been a sore muscle or two (the worst injuries were to my legs at STPR 1983).

OK, so my answer WAS 2 sentences - the following qualification and explanation sentences don't count. :p

PLEASE don't take my old fart attitude as an indictment of HNRs. I suspect they'll benefit us all in the long run if for no other reason than delaying the day that insurance for real racing/rallying prices most of us out of the sport(s). Since Rally America now requires 38.1 devices I will have one before I rally again and if my return to road racing comes after that I'll certainly wear it on track, but until I start taking trees between the headlights I'd rather my self-reliant egress from a wadded up rally car NOT be encumbered by HNRs or - worse - helmet nets. Imagine needing to undo one (or two) HNR tethers and a couple helmet nets to get out of the car in this vid - http://www.sumo.tv/watch.php?video=3045165! Alone in a wrecked/flipped race car during daylight when helping hands are just seconds away (THANK YOU CORNER WORKERS!!!) is one thing - upside down about to inhale muddy water is a whole other animal ...