ARRC Travel, Parking

[Greg Amy]

This is an initial call for all Northeast folks heading out Road Atlanta in November for the annual ARRC bash. As before, we'd like to get a headcount of who's going and what you're driving, so that we can present that information in advance to the ARRC organizers. They will work to get us all paddocked together in one common area (the same parking format as last year).

So, if you're planning on going - even if you only THINK you might be going - post here the following information:

Name
Car type and class
Tow vehicle make and model
Trailer make, model, and size - Note all open trailers will have to be stowed away from the paddock "down the hill."

As always, travel costs are a concern. With fuel prices the way they are anything we can do to reduce costs is appreciated; if we can consolidate travel plans in order to reduce costs, so much the better. For example, do you have a truck capable of pulling more than a single-car trailer? Do you have access to a multi-car trailer, open or closed? If the former, would you be interested in pulling a multi-car trailer? If the latter, are you willing to let someone borrow it? And finally, for getting down there I have a 15-passenger van and can carry extra passengers.

Once again I'll be the central depository for all this info, and I can coordinate any kind of ride-sharing. If you have specific question feel free to post here, or feel free to email (grega -at- pobox -dot- com) or PM me directly. - GA


First entry

Greg Amy
ITA Nissan NX2000
Ford E-350 van (V10)
Enclosed 24' Haulmark trailer

[gran racing]

Dave Gran
ITB Honda Prelude si
Toyota Tundra
Open trailer

Still in the "I think" mode.

[dazzlesa]

i know it is a long shot, but if somebody has room to drag my ITB civic down let me know. rick
add; its 12 1/2 feet long and weighs 2000 lbs

[Beran]

I'm 80% sure I am going.
Name: Beran Peter
Car type and class: VW Golf ITB
Tow vehicle make and model: 2005 Chevy 2500
Trailer make, model, and size: 2007 ATC trailer 28ft - I might be able to fit a second car in the trailer but I might not have the room with spares etc.

Beran

[Greg Amy]

I might be able to fit a second car in the trailer but I might not have the room with spares etc.[/b]
Where do you live, Beran? If it means getting someone else to make the event, we can always find room to haul spares and such. - GA

[Beran]

Ayer, MA 01432

[Tkczecheredflag]

We are hoping to have the stars line up correctly and will make every effort to get down to RA.

tim klvana
Acura Integra ITA
Dodge Ram 2500 (Quad/Short Bed)
28' US Cargo, Phantom Wide Body - Enclosed

Please pray for a "blue moon"

[dominojd]

We are hoping to have the stars line up correctly and will make every effort to get down to RA.

tim klvana
Acura Integra ITA
Dodge Ram 2500 (Quad/Short Bed)
28' US Cargo, Phantom Wide Body - Enclosed

Please pray for a "blue moon"
[/b]

Come on now don't be getting our hopes up. :D

Greg you know what I got so don't bother me. :P

[Jeremy Billiel]

We are hoping to have the stars line up correctly and will make every effort to get down to RA.

tim klvana
Acura Integra ITA
Dodge Ram 2500 (Quad/Short Bed)
28' US Cargo, Phantom Wide Body - Enclosed

Please pray for a "blue moon"
[/b]

Not to take this off topic, but damn Tim that is a big trailer for a short bed truck. Isn't the truck all over the place?

[Tkczecheredflag]

Come on now don't be getting our hopes up. :D

Greg you know what I got so don't bother me. :P
[/b]
Joe - Love fly the swatter are you trying to tell us something?



Not to take this off topic, but damn Tim that is a big trailer for a short bed truck. Isn't the truck all over the place?
[/b]
Jeremy - The quad gives it plenty of length - but I thought he trialer was supposed to sway back and forth - No???? I found that if go at least 80 mph you don't notice the swagger.

My bigger issue is the weight - the whole kit and kapoddle weighs 19,500# - that's a lot of bacon Jeremy for that Hemi. Is there a diesel in my future???? Caaarroooool. :rolleyes:

[RSTPerformance]

In the "would love to go" mode as of now... Would need to at least split the fuel costs and an oil change in Stephens truck... Not sure he would let me take the truck, the trailer and HIS race car but it would be worth asking is someone is seriose about splitting the costs... Fuel to/from Ohio was almoast $1,000 I think for the 28,000lb rig.... that was 12 hours, not 18hrs.

Raymond

[Andy Bettencourt]

In the "would love to go" mode as of now... Would need to at least split the fuel costs and an oil change in Stephens truck... Not sure he would let me take the truck, the trailer and HIS race car but it would be worth asking is someone is seriose about splitting the costs... Fuel to/from Ohio was almoast $1,000 I think for the 28,000lb rig.... that was 12 hours, not 18hrs.

Raymond [/b]

MO is 1500 miles round trip from Portland, NH. At 9mpg/$3 per gallon, that is around $500 in fuel.



We are thinking about farming out the toter and 5-car stacker.

[Tkczecheredflag]

MO is 1500 miles round trip from Portland, NH. At 9mpg/$3 per gallon, that is around $500 in fuel.



We are thinking about farming out the toter and 5-car stacker.
[/b]
Andy - As I mentioned before - keep me in mind for a spot on the stacker. I would much less reliant on the "Moon and the Stars", if I could fly down and meet the car. I wish I could get 9 mpg. - I barely get that without the trailer on the back.

[dazzlesa]

for if it can happen, i would share fuel, hotels and driving.

[lateapex911]

yeah, I'm on the list: Jake
Pickup and 20' enclosed

But, more importantly, did anyone notice Joe's sig!?!?!

AWESOME!

[Magical Trevor]

Jeremy - The quad gives it plenty of length - but I thought he trialer was supposed to sway back and forth - No???? I found that if go at least 80 mph you don't notice the swagger.
[/b]

Try putting the car and all equipment as far towards the back end of the trailer as possible; then try getting near highway speed. ;)

[Andy Bettencourt]

But, more importantly, did anyone notice Joe's sig!?!?!

AWESOME!
[/b]

AWESOME! Maybe he can do it someday... :eclipsee_steering:

Time for a new skeeter.

[lateapex911]

AWESOME! Maybe he can do it someday... :eclipsee_steering:

Time for a new skeeter. [/b]

LOL...I always thought it looked more like some kind of confused beetle going in figure 8s to me...

(But double bonus points for the initiative!)

[Tkczecheredflag]

But, more importantly, did anyone notice Joe's sig!?!?!

AWESOME!
[/b]
See post #10

[Andy Bettencourt]

LOL...I always thought it looked more like some kind of confused beetle going in figure 8s to me...

(But double bonus points for the initiative!)
[/b]

You are right. Just a bug. Gotta get me a real Mos-kee-toe.

ON-TOPIC: If you are interested in your car getting transported from Bellingham, MA to RA for the ARRC (5 max), see me at LRP. You could fly in and meet your cr there or you could hitch a free ride in the Toter. Space for all tires, tools and gear included.

[jlucas]

Ok, so I may not be a northeaster currently (born in CT), but I was planning on paddocking by you guys again for ARRC since the IT Fest was such fun.

Jeremy Lucas - ITA Integra LS
-Chevy 3500 crew cab dually (work's, not mine)
-24ft enclosed with attached side awning (I'll bring my two 10x10s as well)

[JLawton]

Time for a new skeeter.
[/b]


Um, is that a euphemism??? :o




If we're making an analogy between our cars and our manhood, Andy, you better not unzip your pants!!! :P

[Andy Bettencourt]

Um, is that a euphemism??? :o

If we're making an analogy between our cars and our manhood, Andy, you better not unzip your pants!!! :P

[/b]

Anyone driving a Miata is OBVIOUSLY comfortable in that area. I heard you were getting a T1 Vette this winter... :birra:

[Greg Amy]

Anyone driving a Miata is OBVIOUSLY comfortable in that area.[/b]
"Comfort" is not equal to "capable". I'm sure guys driving around in pink Miatas are pretty damn contented...

:lol:

[lateapex911]

See post #10 [/b]

Sorry Tim, but between the <span style="font-family:Palatino">[b]IF in that statement!!!!????

[Gregg]

Don&#39;t know if you want to include a few not-quite-northerners but it would be appreciated:

Gregg Ginsberg
ITA &#39;90 Honda CRX
GMC Suburban 454 (possibly an F350 PS cuz 7mpg ain&#39;t no fun)
Open trailer (possibly gonna be a 28&#39; ugly ol&#39; no-name enclosed "thing")

Roger Troxell
ITC &#39;85 Honda Civic
Chevy 3500 HD (8.2l)
This white 24&#39; enclosed somethingorother

[gran racing]

Greg, you can take me off the ARRC list.

[Jeremy Billiel]

Greg, you can take me off the ARRC list.
[/b]

Why is that Dave?

[lateapex911]

Greg, you can take me off the ARRC list. [/b]

yea, that sucks...:(

[Jeremy Billiel]

yea, that sucks...:(
[/b]

Dave - You need to come! We need more people to laugh and watch Jake try to scale his car again this year.

[gran racing]

Why is that Dave?[/b]

Not enough time, money, or motivation right now. I’m not quite sure in which order. The car build this past year took a lot out of me.

After my incident at Mid Ohio, I should have inspected the car much more throughly. Matt Kessler had the car on the lift the night before the NARRC and showed me how the driver’s side suspension arm (not sure what the bar is called) was bent and twisted. We put the rear toe back to where it should be but after complaining how the rear felt really darty at LRP, Matt just said “well duh, you need to replace that!” There are a bunch of other relatively minor issues I also need to resolve / improve as well and put together, it&#39;s too much for me right now.

[dominojd]

Matt just said “well duh, you need to replace that!” [/b]

Matt? Now would he say something like that? :D

[JLawton]

Matt? Now would he say something like that? :D
[/b]



That&#39;s called, payin&#39; the Matt Kessler "stupid tax"!! We&#39;ve all paid it!! :D

[dominojd]

Holy Crap! 21 entered in ITA already and still more than a month away. :D

[ajn]

Alright d00ds!! I&#39;m comin&#39;...can I be part of the clan? Is Merryland considered NorthEast?

AJ Nealey
#77 ITA 1988 Honda CRX Si
2005 Ford F3fitty
24&#39; Black enclosed trailer

I can meet your group as you start heading down south...and I can carry passengers and stuff...

[Greg Amy]

"Dood", I wouldn&#39;t DREAM of having a "compound" without you...

[dominojd]

Get the video camera ready. :birra:

[Magical Trevor]

Get the video camera ready. :birra:
[/b]
Careful what you wish for Joe, remember whose car he almost smashed that bottle on ;)

[Beran]

I signed up for both the ARRC and the Pro - IT.
Now I have to get all my crap together.

[JLawton]

Careful what you wish for Joe, remember whose car he almost smashed that bottle on ;)
[/b]


Um, have you seen Joe&#39;s car up close?? I don&#39;t think it would have made a difference!! :P

[Magical Trevor]

Um, have you seen Joe&#39;s car up close?? I don&#39;t think it would have made a difference!! :P
[/b]

I was going to make that note, but the car is still Joe&#39;s baby-no matter how many times it&#39;s been dropped. :lol:

[Nomex95]

Charlie Gerundo


most likley not going, but you never know :(
ITB

18&#39; open trailer, would like to park on the grass like last year, all my stuff is in bins on the trailer

F250 tow

thanks for your help with parking Greg

[RSTPerformance]

Not going... car is off the pace, and not enough time to invest into it :( Would love to go just for fun and run mid pack, but I can&#39;t see making the investment in the towing expence, with the risk of loosing the motor all together. Put in a tow fund to make it a lot cheeper and we are in ;)

Raymond "Bummed on this note" Blethen

[Beran]

Anyone have suggestions for a final drive for an ITB VW Golf 2.0 - (not much umph after 5,800 RPM) at Road Atlanta
Thanks
Beran

[dominojd]

Holy Crap! 21 entered in ITA already and still more than a month away. :D
[/b]

Update 30 in ITA and Andy&#39;s stayin home. Sucka :D

[Andy Bettencourt]

Update 30 in ITA and Andy&#39;s stayin home. Sucka :D [/b]

Do ya NEED me to beat you at EVERY track we race on? Keep somthing for yourself... :P

[Tkczecheredflag]

Update 30 in ITA and Andy&#39;s stayin home. Sucka :D
[/b]
Joe - Where is the link for registered cars? We are still only a "maybe", but I am working hard to make it happen.

Are there any big rigs offering a hauler to bring cars down for a cost?






Do ya NEED me to beat you at EVERY track we race on? Keep somthing for yourself... :P
[/b]
Andy - Not sure if I am reading the NARRC points summary correctly but it appears there were "bumps in the road (track)" at Pocono, NHIS, and LRP . Maybe that was planned as to not attract too much attention????? ;)

RA is fun, fast and technical. I am sure ALL your Northeast brothers and sisters just want to see how you do against the "best of the best". Come and play.

[Andy Bettencourt]

Andy - Not sure if I am reading the NARRC points summary correctly but it appears there were "bumps in the road (track)" at Pocono, NHIS, and LRP . Maybe that was planned as to not attract too much attention????? ;) [/b]

Nope...I swing for the fence everytime out there! Take a closer look at Pocono...

Bottom line? It was a great year, rain and all... Without that rain - look out!!! But you take it how it comes - strengths and weeknesses both. It&#39;s racin&#39;!


RA is fun, fast and technical. I am sure ALL your Northeast brothers and sisters just want to see how you do against the "best of the best". Come and play. [/b]

In good time...

[lateapex911]

Sad update....

My parents house, on the market since June, has sold, and the closing is just after the ARRCs...and it&#39;s been occupied by them essentially for 50 yrs.So I have my hands full...a lot of work for one person. Since the ARRCs are such a time consuming event, (5days, essentially) and work is piling up as well, I&#39;m going to...sob, have to pass.

I will, I think, fly down to watch.

In some ways, thats better, as I can WATCH the ITA race, as opposed to being in it, in the IT7 class.

Anyone want to toss me on their crew list?

[Vantage #51]

Beran,
We are using a 4.24 diff in our A-3,First time out will be at VIR next weeek end, will know beter then if it will work at RA.
See you there.
Derek Lugar
Vantage Motorsports

[RSTPerformance]

in our A-3
Derek Lugar
Vantage Motorsports
[/b]

exciting news!!! Watxh out as I have a new favorite!!! Go Derek!!!

Raymond

PS: we had a spy visit your track last weekend up in Canada... We can see why you like the VW&#39;s ;) Good car choice for the tight twisty back sections!!! I also heard that it was 2 cars wide in most areas... certainly adds to the challenges!!! See you soon and good luck at the ARRC :eclipsee_steering: :smilie_pokal: :035: :OLA: :023:

[Beran]

Derek -
Thanks for the info on the drive.
Great news about the A3! I am sure it will run well with your prep!
It will be good to catch up at RA. It will be a blast to compete together. It looks like there should be a great turn out for ITB.
See you there,
Beran

[Greg Amy]

SUMMARY

Here&#39;s what I&#39;ve got so far. If you don&#39;t see yourself here, please PM or email me (grega at pobox com).

Also, if you think you&#39;re going to arrive later than, say, 9:00 PM Wednesday evening, please let me know! I need to start releasing space to the ARRC Parkers ASAP so that no one is left out. Call me on my cell (203.209.1217) any time during Wednesday if it appears you&#39;re running late, and I&#39;ll make sure to save space for you.

Confirmed:
Greg Amy, ITA Nissan NX2000, Ford Excursion, Enclosed 28&#39; trailer
Beran Peter, VW Golf ITB, Chevy 2500, 32ft enclosed
Tim Klvana, ITA Acura Integra, Dodge Ram 2500 Short Bed, 28&#39; Enclosed
Joe DiMinno, ITA Nissan Sentra, Dodge short bed, 24&#39; enclosed
Jeremy Lucas, ITA Integra, Chevy 3500 crew cab dually, 24ft enclosed
Gregg Ginsberg, ITA &#39;90 Honda CRX, GMC Suburban 454 or F350 PS, Open trailer or 28&#39; ugly ol&#39; no-name enclosed "thing"
Roger Troxell, ITC &#39;85 Honda Civic, Chevy 3500 HD, 24&#39; enclosed somethingorother
AJ Nealey, ITA CRX Si, 2005 Ford F350, 24&#39; enclosed
Russ Jones, ITS 944, GMC crew cab, open trailer. Late arrival noted!
Jinx Jordon, ITC CRX, Chevy Van, open trailer. Late arrival noted!
Michael Reese, ITB, Pickup truck, open trailer. Late arrival noted!
Dan Jones, ITR BMW E36, pickup truck, 24&#39; enclosed.
Bob Smart, ITB, Ford dually, 40&#39; enclosed.
Someone to be name later from NY, possibly two ITA cars, toter home. This one I&#39;ll believe when I see it...<grin>

Gonna be there, but parking in the grass.
Charlie Gerundo, ITB. F250 or Toy Tundra, open 18 foot trailer.

Possible:

Bailed:
Gran
Gulick
Blethans

Too much of a wuss to even bother thinking about signing up:
Lawton


Unknown:
Rick Benazic? What&#39;s your status, man...?
Bettencourt? Is the whole team "out"? No one willing to farm out the toter for interested parties (and track parties)?

[jinxcrx]

Greg......
As requested.....

Jinx Jordan
33 ITC Honda Crx

Chevy van
Open trailer to the hole.

Will not arrive until Thursday midday.

Thanks!

[RSTPerformance]

Unknown:
Blethans? What&#39;s your status?
[/b]


Would love to go but at the Glenn the car was WAY off pace... sitting this year out, building motors and kicking ass at a few races next year in prep for dominating Palmer in 09!!! See you all in 08, and represent the top for all of us whom will be watching updates from the cold northeast (even though it was over 80 yesturday in NH)!!!

:)

Raymond

[JLawton]

Bailed:
Gran
Gulick
Blethans
Lawton

[/b]


Fixed it!! :(

[dazzlesa]

i will know better after the weekend. as of now tentative ITB pickup and open trailer.
trying to get a totter home to go south.

[JLawton]

trying to get a totter home to go south.
[/b]

Ya mean from the same guy that signed up for the NARRC but never showed?? ;)

[dazzlesa]

same cat. something about his house is taking up his time <_<

[Greg Amy]

Bailed:
Gran
Gulick
Blethans

Too much of a wuss to even bother thinking about signing up:
Lawton[/b]
Actually, fixed even better...

[Andy Bettencourt]

Feel the LOVE! :birra:

[dj10]

I&#39;m coming w/ 24&#39; enclosed Hallmark, pulled by a 2500HD Silverado extended cab

ITR BMW 325

Jones

[Greg Amy]

Feel the LOVE! :birra:[/b]
Hey, better watch it, Bettencourt: you&#39;re next on the Lawton list... ;)

[Andy Bettencourt]

Hey, better watch it, Bettencourt: you&#39;re next on the Lawton list...
[/b]

I&#39;m with ya...I&#39;m just glad it&#39;s not me who&#39;s getting the &#39;business&#39; at this moment. We all get our turn...it&#39;s NER BABY!!!!!!

[dominojd]

I&#39;m with ya...I&#39;m just glad it&#39;s not me who&#39;s getting the &#39;business&#39; at this moment. We all get our turn...it&#39;s NER BABY!!!!!!
[/b]

You asked for it. :D

Go ahead and be a big PUSS just like Lawton maybe you guys could go bowling that weekend or something. :P

[Nomex95]

charlie gerundo

ITB

open 18 foot trailer would like to park it on the grass by the out house all my junk is on the trailer

F250 or tundra

looks like I&#39;m going if the car shakes out at the emrra Lime rock on Sat.

thanks Greg

[Greg Amy]

>>> open 18 foot trailer would like to park it on the grass by the out house all my junk is on the trailer

Charlie, do you mean that you&#39;d like to park your race car out on the grass, or just the trailer? I&#39;m keeping a list of those that want to park with us on the skidpad area... - GA

[Nomex95]

greg

i would like to park the trailer on the grass like they let me the past 3 yrs

Thanks
charlie

[Beran]

Greag - small update. My trailer is 32ft
And - can I keep my truck hooked up to my trailer or parked in the towing position during the stay?
Thanks,
Beran

[Greg Amy]

Changed noted.



...can I keep my truck hooked up to my trailer or parked in the towing position during the stay?[/b]
Yes.

We will be given the ends of two whole rows from which to work (look at this map - http://www.arrc-online.com/paddockparking.html. We&#39;re talking about the area marked "ACCESS ONLY" with arrows) This map differs somewhat from what they&#39;ve done in the past; prior years had a road in between those two areas, so either the map is incorrect or they changed it. Regardless, that does not materially change the plan.

Each enclosed trailer will be parked perpendicular in those rows, starting with one on the end of the row closest to Goodyear, with its closed side (away from the trailer side door) facing inwards. I will arrange everyone in an as-user-friendly "community" way as possible, typically by placing each enclosed trailer door-to-door with another; each team will have a roughly 25-foot-or so distance between the open doors of the enclosed trailers. That may seem close, but we&#39;ve got to keep it tight, and since those rows are (were?) about 50-feet wide that still gives you a lot of room. This way each of the trailers facing each other can have a 10-ft-or-so wide canopy outside your trailer door.

In addition, we will need to camp at least one open trailer person with you in between each of those facing enclosed trailers. So, in the end, you&#39;ll all have three cars paddocked in a 25 foot wide-by-at-least-50-foot long space (1250 square feet or so.) If there&#39;s truly no road between those two rows this year we may create a separate "open trailer racer compound" in one big area in the middle instead of infiltrating them with the enclosed trailers; I&#39;ll figure that once I get there and discuss it with the ARRC Parkers.

So, if you have a preference as to whom you&#39;d like to paddock with, both another enclosed trailer and someone with an open trailer, do let me know your preferences, otherwise I&#39;ll park on a first-come-first-served basis.

Capiche?

[ajn]

Thanks Greg for all of your hard work co-ordinating this...lookin&#39; good!!

[Tkczecheredflag]

Greg - It&#39;s with regret that I inform you that the CPM Motorsports Team will not be at the ARRC this year. Sorry, but I just can&#39;t get the stars to line up correctly. Crunched the numbers and figure it&#39;s about $4.800.00 to get us all there and back, fed, shelterd, fueled, registered, tires, test day and the rest of the race stuff needed and the incidentals. Time and work are an issue too. We voted and all feel that the money will be better spent on the car for next year.

CPM Motorsports will be cheering for all of our Northeast racers. Good Luck Everyone!

[Nomex95]

greg,

Mike Reese and I paddocked together last year on the corner space, we took one space for the two of us. It was tight but we made it work. We would like to be together again or close to each other if possible (he&#39;s always borrowing parts from me and needs me to tell him how to put them in the car!!)

Thanks again,
Charlie Gerundo

[Greg Amy]

Mike Reese and I paddocked together last year on the corner space, we took one space for the two of us. It was tight but we made it work. We would like to be together again or close to each other if possible (he&#39;s always borrowing parts from me and needs me to tell him how to put them in the car!!)[/b]
Noted; remind me when you get there. Michael told me he wasn&#39;t showing until Thursday; what about you?

I&#39;m leaving tonight for VIR, then straight on to Atlanta. May or may not spend time checking this forum, so any changes please call me on my cell, 203.209.1217.

Also note, that with 300 entries for this event we&#39;re likely going to be packed in a LOT tighter than in years past; please be patient and accommodating, otherwise I&#39;ll throw you back to the ARRC Parkers and you&#39;ll be at their collective mercies...

See you there! - GA

[Gregg]

Greg-

Looks like I&#39;ll be there as planned Wed. night, but Roger Troxell won&#39;t be arriving until Thurs. AM.

[Nomex95]

Greg,

looks like Thursday for me too.

thanks,
Charlie

[Beran]

Greg,
We plan on leaving Tuesday evening.
See you Wed eve.
Beran
617-803-3658 cell