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BobsAuto
11-09-2006, 09:41 AM
Figured I'd start the thread. I noticed in another thread that parking went REALLY well from the eyes of some of the competitors. Congrats to Sandy and Fletcher for all their hard work....now guys and gals, keep us posted.....BTW, who won the Wesson/Crisco parking award???? :birra:

dazzlesa
11-09-2006, 08:25 PM
quick update: really nice day. the times are off from last year. from what i saw greg amy, bob stretch and moser were quick. off to qualifying

gsbaker
11-10-2006, 03:06 PM
Well?

Knestis
11-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Rumor is that Greg has the provisional ITA pole by about half a second.

K

Racerlinn
11-10-2006, 03:29 PM
Rumor is that Greg has the provisional ITA pole by about half a second.

K
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Mmmm, well if we are going to go with rumors, I'll add that he's wearing ladies underwear under his driving suit. :P

Andy Bettencourt
11-10-2006, 03:48 PM
ITA quick update:

Just talked with Greg:
Amy: 1:43.424 NX2000
Botha 1:44.083 CRX
Moser 1:44.086 (Joe) CRX
Moser 1:44.313 CRX
Ruck 1:44.608 Integra
Darling 1:44.8xx Integra

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Notables: Stretch 1:45 flat Miata
Harmer 1:47x Miata

Unofficial extrapolated from both grid sheets. Word on Botha is his Pro-IT co-driver was who crashed it...could be wrong. Greg was scrubbing tires the second session and didn't push but said that the Mosers were REAL fast in the heat. Stretch was clicking off 5's lap after lap. While it might be a second and a half off in raw speed, it may be there at the end. Wish I was there!

philstireservice
11-10-2006, 04:30 PM
Mmmm, well if we are going to go with rumors, I'll add that he's wearing ladies underwear under his driving suit. :P
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You know, I thought his race suit looked a little bunched up in certain areas at VIR last weekend. Not too mention, he seemed to be having just too good of a time in his last stint... :rolleyes:




Way to go Greg.........panties and all !!!

RSTPerformance
11-10-2006, 05:35 PM
Way to go Greg!!!

How about the other classes??? Any updates? Looks like I will need to make a few calls :)

Raymond

Andy Bettencourt
11-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Quote Catch 22 from his site: http://roadrace-autox.com/bbs/category-view.asp


Updates...

ITB is gonna be a show. Three of the top 4 are Accords and they are all within .4 of each other after qualifying.
1. P. Keane
2. Vantage VW guy who's name I can't remember
3. Scott Seck (in Juston Poole's ex Accord)
4. Trever Degioanni

ITC is the usual suspects (minus <sniff> me)
1. Vesa Silegren
2. Gareth Rebstock
3. Scott Fruth
4. Chuck Reynolds[/b]

dazzlesa
11-10-2006, 09:00 PM
i ran the pro it today. very intense start and restart after a double yellow for picking up the array of wrecked cars.there was 3 or 4 cars wrecked. ita was on the light side but i was able to lead and have a great race with bob stretch. in 4 laps we ran side by side down turn 12, nose to tail, bumpdrafting,out breaking in 10,drafting past into 10. it was quite an adventure. you just cannot let them miatas buy to run a muck. stretch first, me and i think thorpe in a crx . jake won IT7. the arrc should be a war. rick

JLawton
11-10-2006, 09:06 PM
ITA quick update:

Just talked with Greg:
Amy: 1:43.424 NX2000
Botha 1:44.083 CRX
Moser 1:44.086 (Joe) CRX
Moser 1:44.313 CRX
Ruck 1:44.608 Integra
Darling 1:44.8xx Integra

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Notables: Stretch 1:45 flat Miata
Harmer 1:47x Miata

Unofficial extrapolated from both grid sheets. Word on Botha is his Pro-IT co-driver was who crashed it...could be wrong. Greg was scrubbing tires the second session and didn&#39;t push but said that the Mosers were REAL fast in the heat. Stretch was clicking off 5&#39;s lap after lap. While it might be a second and a half off in raw speed, it may be there at the end. Wish I was there!
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But all bets may be off tomorrow!! May be rain!! Crazy Joe came alive in the second qualifying and may be 10th (I think?)

Andy Bettencourt
11-10-2006, 09:41 PM
See it all here:

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=178009

gran racing
11-11-2006, 07:01 AM
New update....

Amy crashes and injured in wreck!!! The vehicle looks o.k. but Greg held bandages on with duck tape.




No, not in the car, but on his gyro scooter. :lol:

Bill Miller
11-11-2006, 07:42 AM
ITA looks to be the race of the weekend!!

Go get &#39;em Greg!!! :eclipsee_steering: :smilie_pokal: :023:

Tkczecheredflag
11-11-2006, 09:10 AM
New update....

Amy crashes and injured in wreck!!! The vehicle looks o.k. but Greg held bandages on with duck tape.
No, not in the car, but on his gyro scooter. :lol:
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Your scaring us Dave.
I spoke with Greg yesterday before the second session and and he was making adjustments to the car for session two. Very exciting stuff - Will the Northeast rule again?
Weather does look shaky.

dj10
11-11-2006, 12:40 PM
New update....

Amy crashes and injured in wreck!!! The vehicle looks o.k. but Greg held bandages on with duck tape.




No, not in the car, but on his gyro scooter. :lol: [/b]



NOT FUNNY AT ALL!!!!!!!!

BobsAuto
11-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Go Vantage!!!!! Rob, nice qualifying....Derek, you are in shooting range....go get em!!! :cavallo: :cavallo:

Andy Bettencourt
11-11-2006, 02:32 PM
GREG AMY WINS!!!!!!!!!!!

tom91ita
11-11-2006, 03:26 PM
GREG AMY WINS!!!!!!!!!!!
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and ruck second with fastest lap if i am reading mylaps right.

now, more than ever, i&#39;m curious about this panties nonsense!

good to see people you "know" through here and people you have raced with do well at something like the arrc. maybe next year i&#39;ll have to save some $$ to go.

Banzai240
11-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Congrats to Greg... ITA looks pretty good. Greg has put in a terrific effort to get competitive and it&#39;s paying off...

I&#39;m not sure what kind of cars were on the leader board for ITS, but it looks to me like there is some work to be done... unless there is a hidden story that I haven&#39;t heard that would explain how two cars could be an entire lap ahead of the rest of the ITS field... Must be terrific drivers... :eclipsee_steering:

Class: ITS

1 26 Robert Huffmaster 19 32:55.739 1:41.263 13 90.300 -
2 91 Kip Vansteenburg 19 32:57.546 1.807 1:41.417 13 90.162 -
3 61 Richard Walke 18 31:43.866 1 Lap 1:43.304 8 88.515 -
4 86 Kent Thompson 18 31:45.798 1.932 1:43.438 8 88.401 -
5 55 Bill Sulouff 18 31:46.426 2.560 1:43.692 7 88.184 -
6 5 Mauricio Montana 18 32:02.168 18.302 1:44.296 11 87.674 -
7 44 Chris Camadella 18 32:02.883 19.017 1:43.914 16 87.996 -

dickita15
11-11-2006, 03:50 PM
unless there is a hidden story that I haven&#39;t heard that would explain how two cars could be an entire lap ahead of the rest of the ITS field[/b]
it looks like they are the only ones that did not get laped by the TCC corvetes

ljracer
11-11-2006, 03:55 PM
Check out mplaps.com and you will see that ITS ran with TCC. The fastest TCC car won with a fast lap of 1.32. I would guess that the winner of TCC passed the third place ITS car on the 20th lap then crossed the finished line before passing 1st and 2nd in ITS. This would have allowed the 1st and 2nd place cars to complete their 20th laps while the race would have ended on lap 19 for the 3rd place racer.

Congrats to Greg Amy.

Kudos to Ruck and the Mosers!

Where is Colin Botha?

Andy Bettencourt
11-11-2006, 04:01 PM
Where is Colin Botha?

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Car got wrecked in Pro IT qualifying. A shame.

Tkczecheredflag
11-11-2006, 04:12 PM
Just spoke a very excited Greg Amy in Tech.
B Moser P-3
Kevin Ruck P-2
Greg Amy P-1

Congrats to Greg - The Northeast rules again.

Andy Bettencourt
11-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Just spoke a very excited Greg Amy in Tech.
B Moser P-3
Kevin Ruck P-2
[size=7]Greg Amy P-1

Congrats to Greg - The Northeast rules again.



Tim,

Isn&#39;t it nice to know that 2 of the last three years ARRC winning ITA cars are in our Region? :P






Class: ITS

1 26 Robert Huffmaster 19 32:55.739 1:41.263 13 90.300 -
2 91 Kip Vansteenburg 19 32:57.546 1.807 1:41.417 13 90.162 -
3 61 Richard Walke 18 31:43.866 1 Lap 1:43.304 8 88.515 -
4 86 Kent Thompson 18 31:45.798 1.932 1:43.438 8 88.401 -
5 55 Bill Sulouff 18 31:46.426 2.560 1:43.692 7 88.184 -
6 5 Mauricio Montana 18 32:02.168 18.302 1:44.296 11 87.674 -
7 44 Chris Camadella 18 32:02.883 19.017 1:43.914 16 87.996 -

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Something to notice: RX-7, Miata, BMW, 944S and Corrado VR6 in the top 7. Holy crap!

Eagle7
11-11-2006, 04:28 PM
Just spoke a very excited Greg Amy in Tech.
B Moser P-3
Kevin Ruck P-2
[size=7]Greg Amy P-1

Congrats to Greg - The Northeast rules again.

Kudos to Greg. But not so fast on the Northeast rules talk. Great Lakes Division took 1st in ITS and 2nd and 3rd in ITA. :P

jmp
11-11-2006, 05:37 PM
Congratulations to Trevor Degioanni and Scott Seck! Both cars running my 1st and 2nd generation accord headers! Very exciting.

Juston Poole
Original Metal Concepts

Bill Miller
11-11-2006, 05:51 PM
WOOOO HOOO!! A big congrats to Greg!! Way to go buddy!!! :023: :smilie_pokal:

Congrats to all the other drivers as well, and yeah, quite a mix in the pointy end of the ITS field.

/edit/ Anybody know what happened to Jeff Lawton??

lateapex911
11-11-2006, 06:46 PM
As noted above the ITS cars were grouped in a split start with the TCC Corvettes, which was an unhappy grouping. The winning Vette lapped most ITS cars, except the leaders, but the leading ITS cars were into Corvette traffic early. Corvette traffic played a role in the finish.


But, some quick points...Amy made the final lap in tech and keeps the trophy.

It&#39;s a cool event, and the track is awesome. I&#39;m glad I dragged my underprepared rusty ass down here. Good to be back in the car, and back cruising around RA.

I&#39;m sad that my car, an IT7, is in the ITA group, as the ITA race is a great one to watch, LOL

ITB was pretty close......but where have all the Volvos, 2002s and Golfs gone?? Chris Albin had SO much electrical trouble that he never turned a wheel and missed his first ARRC in, I think, 12 years.

Glad to see the VW in 2nd in the ITC array of Hondas.

And we got the races in before the skys opened. Can&#39;t wait to come back!

gran racing
11-11-2006, 07:27 PM
Originally when I heard how far many people travel to attend this event I thought they were crazy. Last year I decided to make the trek (~17 hour tow) and understood. Even though I didn&#39;t have my car this year, the event was a blast. I even learned why Joe is named "Crazy Joe". LOL

Greg and Matt, congratulations on your ITA win!! That was awesome. You just knew I&#39;d have to throw this video up here. :D

Greg Wins ITA Video (http://www.goaheadtakethewheel.com/videos/Greg.mov)


Jake, congrats on your IT PRO race. Ha, Greg thinks he&#39;s cool since he won some silly amateur race.

lateapex911
11-11-2006, 07:52 PM
Originally when I heard how far many people travel to attend this event I thought they were crazy. Last year I decided to make the trek (~17 hour tow) and understood. Even though I didn&#39;t have my car this year, the event was a blast. I even learned why Joe is named "Crazy Joe". LOL

Greg and Matt, congratulations on your ITA win!! That was awesome. You just knew I&#39;d have to throw this video up here. :D

Greg Wins ITA Video (http://www.goaheadtakethewheel.com/videos/Greg.mov)
Jake, congrats on your IT PRO race. Ha, Greg thinks he&#39;s cool since he won some silly amateur race.
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GREAT video! Classic!!!!

Thanks Dave...yeah, my check for 1st place might actually cover the gas I used in the race...;) (But I thinkI&#39;ll frame that sucker, LOL)

Banzai240
11-11-2006, 08:02 PM
Something to notice: RX-7, Miata, BMW, 944S and Corrado VR6 in the top 7. Holy crap!
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Andy,

I hadn&#39;t noticed that... thanks for pointing it out! Too bad the BMW guys couldn&#39;t see fit to show up and put their complaints to the test... Perhaps they were afraid that they&#39;d provide some proof that the 27mm restrictor was the right call after all... ;)

Great to see such a good mix of cars... Hopefully that provides incentive for may others out there to give it a go... IT Looks like it&#39;s heading strongly into the future!

Great work guys and congrats to those who participated...

philstireservice
11-11-2006, 08:46 PM
Excellent news..... Greg Amy 1st place ITA at the ARRC 2006!!!...............Yessssssss !!!



Way to go buddy !!! Very happy for you Greg!!!




Kim and Phil

OTLimit
11-11-2006, 08:51 PM
This is the first time that Chris has missed the ARRC race. He started racing in 1993 and did the last "thing" in Topeka (blanking on name of event right now), and has not missed an ARRC until this year. He is very frustrated right now; as I understand it, the car is dead in the water at this point and will have to be pushed into the trailer.

It&#39;s going to be a long winter.......

jmark
11-11-2006, 09:02 PM
As noted above the ITS cars were grouped in a split start with the TCC Corvettes, which was an unhappy grouping. The winning Vette lapped most ITS cars, except the leaders, but the leading ITS cars were into Corvette traffic early. Corvette traffic played a role in the finish.
But, some quick points...Amy made the final lap in tech and keeps the trophy.

It&#39;s a cool event, and the track is awesome. I&#39;m glad I dragged my underprepared rusty ass down here. Good to be back in the car, and back cruising around RA.

I&#39;m sad that my car, an IT7, is in the ITA group, as the ITA race is a great one to watch, LOL

ITB was pretty close......but where have all the Volvos, 2002s and Golfs gone?? Chris Albin had SO much electrical trouble that he never turned a wheel and missed his first ARRC in, I think, 12 years.

Glad to see the VW in 2nd in the ITC array of Hondas.

And we got the races in before the skys opened. Can&#39;t wait to come back!
[/b]The ITS cars running with the TCC Vettes was a joke. What were they thinking???? David Spillman was running a solid 3rd and got taken by one of the TCC cars damaging his quick 240Z.

BobsAuto
11-11-2006, 10:47 PM
First of all.....a huge congratulations to Greg Amy for his win!!!!!! Great going.
And to Rob McCabe, Derek Lugar, and Mike Reece who finished 4th, 5th, and 6th in the ITB race.....good job guys. You gave them a run for their money. And Fred White in ITC.....Congratulations!!!!!!!

THE NORTHEAST RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy204: :birra: :happy204: :birra:

Bill Miller
11-12-2006, 08:55 AM
Great video Dave, thanks for putting it up. I had no idea that &#39;Captain Panty&#39; was so graceful!!! :lol:


Once again Greg, congrats on your win, you worked hard, and it paid off. :023: :smilie_pokal:

924Guy
11-12-2006, 10:01 AM
Congrats Greg!! Well earned, I&#39;m sure

Sure wish we&#39;d been able to drag our ITB show down there this year! Oh well, maybe one year we&#39;ll have funding...

I thought something must&#39;ve happened with Kellermeyer and some of the ITS guys, looking at the results.

Back to ITA, did Rief tangle up with Joe mid-race? They were both out on the same lap...

benspeed
11-12-2006, 10:58 AM
Fantastic updates - way to go to all the competitors - particularly Greg aka Captain Panty! How&#39;d he get stuck with that new moniker? $100 to the person who puts that sticker on his car :lol: Crazy Joe - huge move up through the field! Nice job to Rick also. I would never have figured Kip would be on the podium with his ITS Miata (he did run that car, right?)

Now I gotta race these ITA guys next year in the Fiero??? Can&#39;t Wait! (but the focus remains SPO) If I go to the ARRC next year I&#39;ll run the ASA stock car in GTA which is what it&#39;s really classed for.

DAMN I MISS BEING AT THE TRACK!

Andy - you gotta be suffering too

KelleyHux
11-12-2006, 12:27 PM
Lesley ...

Thanks for posting. We were concerned when we didn&#39;t find any times, even in qualifying!

Despite the utter frustration at chasing electrical gremlins for days, at least Chris can still push the car in the trailer. We were worried he might have found one of Road Atlanta&#39;s concrete walls.

The "thing" you referred to was the ITFest (at Heartland Park). And, yeah, we were there too!

Kelley Huxtable
DMVR
"PLAY SAFE"

Tkczecheredflag
11-12-2006, 12:41 PM
Tim,

Isn&#39;t it nice to know that 2 of the last three years ARRC winning ITA cars are in our Region? :P


Andy - Indeed it is.
I hadn&#39;t noticed that you already posted Greg&#39;s win on the 1st page - there I go drafting your air again.

Greg Amy
11-12-2006, 01:07 PM
Thanks, all, for the the kind words. I&#39;ll have more to write once we get home, but the quick summary is that Joe Moser didn&#39;t make it easy; he literally drove the wheels off that CRX trying to keep up. He would KILL me in the corners and under braking, but the power of the Kessler SR20DE is what kept me ahead. By the same token, he drove an amazingly clean race; he had several opportunities to use the chrome horn but chose to avoid it. As I told him in person, he did a hell of a job and I&#39;d race door-to-door with ANY day.

The tech shed kept us honest; at one point we were concerned that we had miscalculated on compression ratio (this is the same engine we&#39;ve been running all year; we ran out of time to install the new one), but in the end our fears were unfounded. Whew!

As of this moment we&#39;re sitting at an exit off I-77 in Boonville, NC; Crazy Joe melted a trailer wheel bearing. Matt, Joe, and Dave are off looking for a replacements (I told them to stay close and watch out for each other...) It&#39;s been a hectic, but extremely satisfying year, and I&#39;m proud to have raed with you guys. - Greg

P.S. Dave Gran, you&#39;re gonne get yours... ;)

dazzlesa
11-12-2006, 01:34 PM
reif,darling and moser broke, no contact. jeff lawton spun in turn 5 passing a car. congrats to Gregg. a well deserved win

Bill Miller
11-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Thanks, all, for the the kind words. I&#39;ll have more to write once we get home, but the quick summary is that Joe Moser didn&#39;t make it easy; he literally drove the wheels off that CRX trying to keep up. He would KILL me in the corners and under braking, but the power of the Kessler SR20DE is what kept me ahead. By the same token, he drove an amazingly clean race; he had several opportunities to use the chrome horn but chose to avoid it. As I told him in person, he did a hell of a job and I&#39;d race door-to-door with ANY day.

The tech shed kept us honest; at one point we were concerned that we had miscalculated on compression ratio (this is the same engine we&#39;ve been running all year; we ran out of time to install the new one), but in the end our fears were unfounded. Whew!

As of this moment we&#39;re sitting at an exit off I-77 in Boonville, NC; Crazy Joe melted a trailer wheel bearing. Matt, Joe, and Dave are off looking for a replacements (I told them to stay close and watch out for each other...) It&#39;s been a hectic, but extremely satisfying year, and I&#39;m proud to have raed with you guys. - Greg

P.S. Dave Gran, you&#39;re gonne get yours... ;)
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Have a safe trip home Greg, and I hope Joe gets his trailer fixed quick. Watch the weather when you get farther North, it&#39;s supposed to pour. Oh, and I think you need to update your sig. :023:

JLawton
11-12-2006, 06:32 PM
/edit/ Anybody know what happened to Jeff Lawton??
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Yup, Greg was killer out there!! And Crazy Joe also did a hell of a job this weekend along with Rick!!


All through practice and qualifying (along with some over used tires) I was was struggling to figure out the track. Only ended up qualifying in 19th with a 1:48.XX. At the start there were some bumps and check ups going into turn 1. I managed to get a good run on the pack and finished the first lap around 12th. I had worked my way up to 10th, trying to work Joe over when I over cooked turn 5 trying to over take a lapped car. Spun into the gravel trap and got stuck. Ended up turning a 1:46.xx. Boy is that Saturn torque sweet!!

The good part of ending up in the trap is that I got to watch Greg, Rick, Joe and Jake for the rest of the race. I was jumping up and down screaming from the bank as they took their cool down. They got me pulled out in time to join in the celebration in victory circle. Very cool stuff. It was a blast being part of this road trip!! And we had a ton of laughs!! (like watching Jake trying to corner weigh his car with 8 "helpers"!! :lol:)

Again, Greg, Rick, Joe and Jake did a hell of a job!!

I know the car can do well there, now the driver has to get his sh*t together!! Can&#39;t wait until next year!!!

JeffYoung
11-12-2006, 09:06 PM
Anyone know if KVanSteenburg ran his ITS Miata or his 944s?

charrbq
11-12-2006, 11:09 PM
KVS=Miata Q3 was running 2 mid race didn&#39;t get to see finish

lateapex911
11-12-2006, 11:17 PM
I had worked my way up to 10th, trying to work Joe over when I over cooked turn 5 trying to over take a lapped car. Spun into the gravel trap and got stuck. Ended up turning a 1:46.xx. Boy is that Saturn torque sweet!!

The good part of ending up in the trap is that I got to watch Greg, Rick, Joe and Jake for the rest of the race. I was jumping up and down screaming from the bank as they took their cool down. They got me pulled out in time to join in the celebration in victory circle. Very cool stuff. It was a blast being part of this road trip!! And we had a ton of laughs!! (like watching Jake trying to corner weigh his car with 8 "helpers"!! :lol:)

Again, Greg, Rick, Joe and Jake did a hell of a job!!

I know the car can do well there, now the driver has to get his sh*t together!! Can&#39;t wait until next year!!!
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LOL, Jeff,...the corner weighing started with good intentions, and was a lot of fun. Not sure about the effectiveness, though, as the track scales told a story of the FL being 125 lbs heavier than the FR......oh well, at least the tires weren&#39;t rubbing anymore. I was so surprised to see that it was you in the kitty litter at 5...I had my windsheild full of RX-7 rear bumper for a bout 9 laps it seemed, and didn&#39;t ID your car. I was sad when i saw it was you on my cool down lap.

I&#39;ll second the comments from Jeff. It was a good time and I was relieved to finally turn a wheel and spend some time with the guys that I&#39;ve gotten to know more online than in person. Joe is kinda crazy, LOL>

-Trip home. Joe was able to find a bearing set, but the time cost was high. Spares, Joe, ya gotta carry spares and a tub of grease! ;) As I write this the Amy party is still driving, eta is after 2AM. Ugg!

-ITS: 19 cars started

Kip ran the Miata, and it was a bit of a strange race..... pretty tight in the begining, with Huffmasters RX-7 leading, Kip in the Miata, the Z car of David Spillman, the Corrado of Bill Solouff and the RX-7s of Richard Wilke and Kent thompson running in a pack. Soon the front two eased out a bit, but the fight for 3rd -6th was tight. Then they started catching the Vette backmarkers, and it probably got very annoying for the ITS guys, esp Spillman who found a corvette in his nose...(Not sure of the details) and it ended a strong 3rd place run. (I think he was in 3rd at the time). Bill Solouff got the Corrado into third!!! Nice to see a VW up so high in S! Then his brakes went even further south, so he nursed it home to a fine 5th place finish.. Nice run Bill! At times the front two got seperated in traffic, but Kip reeled the RX-7 in, it seemed, each time. Reports were that the Miata had the RXs number in the twisty section and off turn 7, but Huffmaster was very wide in the first part of the straight, and Kip was just not strong enough at the end to make anything stick. In the end of the race a Corvette wound up between them costing kip time, and they finished about 30 or so seconds ahead of the rest of the ITS cars, but the lead cCorvette had lapped all but the front two, so the results appear lopsided. I think the race times were a bit slower than Q times, which were under 40, if I heard correctly. (I don&#39;t have the Q sheet with me) The fast lap was by Huffmaster with a 1:41.263 to Kips 1:41.417. No ITS cars were in the 42s...Wilkes43.304 was next fastest.

lateapex911
11-13-2006, 12:31 AM
-ITA/IT7

Wish I saw this one, LOL! I knew Greg would be there, and i knew he had a good formula for RA. A fast motor and decetn brakes, and enough handling to hold off a charge out of 12 and under the flag. But they run races for a reason, and sure enough, he pulled it out. Nice run, and a great result for all the hard work he and Matt "Monster" Kessler put in. As many know, the NX2000 is pretty much the only one of it&#39;s kind in the country racing at anything close to this level. It&#39;s the result of a lot of trial and error, some sharp engineering and rulebook reading, and lots of custom fabrication.

Whats cool about the finish is that its Nissan NX2000, Acura Integra, Honda CRX, Mazda Miata ("On the start of the development curve" according to Mr. Stretch), and a Nissan SE-r in the top 6 in ITA. I bet if we took these same 5 cars to another track, we&#39;d see the same good racing, but the order might shake up. Add the 240 SX that we all know can run up front, and the Saturn, and we&#39;ve got a real cool thing going in ITA! 25 cars took the green, and interstingly, the highest placing local driver (closer than 500 miles, LOL) was in 12th! That&#39;s right, the top 11 guys were all from over 500 miles away, from places like Texas and nova Scotia, and CT, and MI, and OH. I think that gives credence to this being more than just a "Regonal" race as some like to claim.

The IT-7 battle was fun for me. The opposite is true in IT-7, most of the guys are pretty local, and have lots of miles at the track. Other than me (950 miles away), we had only 2 other non locals, one from CO, and 1 from OH.

The IT-7 battle was fun for me.....I have to say, it was a hoot, and my race was very close and had some good battles. Clean though, which is more than I can say for my first lap in the Pro IT race when I got tagged going into 10a after making a pass on an Accord into 10. Ugg...sheesh! Sure, we were battling for 56th place, but still...;) But after that, i had lots of fun chasing and racing people. (I started dead last on the field due to no Q time) Was lucky enough not to run out of gas, and got a good finish out of it.

But the RX-7 guys know the track, and their cars, and it was great to run with them. I could get a nose along the 4th place car from time to time, but it really wasn&#39;t enough, and I ended up 5th. For being as woefully underprepared as I was when I got there, and cosidering my dismal qualifying I was pleased with the finish and the general lowering of my lap times. More is certainly needed, and possible. My only regret is the video camera not working in the race. :(

Misc comments and overheard items....

- Joe Moser drove his car HARD, and a control arm or something related failed. He wound up off 10A.
- Greg Amy is not a gymnast....
- The spread at Evan Darlings paddock spot had some tasty food that I can&#39;t spell, and was too late to get any quantity of....maybe I&#39;ll get more next year. ;)

-ITB -15 cars.

No doubt about it, Justin Pooles &#39;05 winning Accord is pretty fast, as it qualified 3rd this year in the hands of Scott Seck. Scott had the fast race lap with a 1:48.076.

Peter Keane had the pole, but when I talked to him before the race he was aprehensive about his transmission...trouble with 3rd and 4th gears. He had a spare, but not enough time to install. I&#39;m not sure if that was a contributing factor, but he got swallowed on the start, and it looked to me like he was about 4th.



Trevor ran his Accord strong and the three Hondas were in lock step.

ITB was more notable for who WASN&#39;T there than who was. As mentioned earlier, Chris Albin missed it, the first time in 13 years....the Blethens were missing, Dave Gran is currently building a new car,and not a Volvo was to be seen. But there WAS a Pinto!!!!

In the end, it was Trevor in the Accord by a second or so over Seck with Keane about 5 seconds back. After that lead group, Nova Scotians Rob Mcabe and Derek Lugar fought it out with Brooklynite Micheal Reese, with Rob taking 3rd, and Derek in 4th.

RSTPerformance
11-13-2006, 12:05 PM
Thanks to all for the updates :) Especially you Jake- Great writeups!!!

Looks like it was a great weekend for most, I havn&#39;t herd any "drama" stories yet (maybe they will come?). Seeing all those Hondas up front in ITB really makes me wish I had coughed up the time and money to fix up at least 1 Audi ;) Maybe next year, if not me someone else!!! One thing I did notice looking at the results was Micheal Reese obviosly got more comfortable with the car and track as he picked up .8 seconds in the enduro... Maybe a force to be reconed with next year??? Also I noticed that the pinto turned a 1:52... wow!!! I think that is dam good for an ITB pinto IMO. Also I am awaiting pictures of the Toyota Celica that was running mid pack... Interesting "oddball" car as well. Well anyway, for those ITB Honda&#39;s (Peter especially as you know Lime Rock well) you need to bring those things up to Lime Rock and show us what you have at the NARRC Runoffs next year :cavallo: .

Other things I noticed.... I expected it and I am glad to see it, did anyone else notice GREG AMY WINS 2006 ITA ARRC Sprint Race Championship (in panties) :smilie_pokal: . Greg you have recieved a great deal of attention, and you deserve it... I know you put in a lot of work. Now my only question is, why isn&#39;t anyone else building one of those cars?

ITS, not many stories from that group??? Whats the deal, ITS used to be "all the talk" Now that the class seemes to be better alighned it seems as though a lot of people have run away from the class... disapointing to me anyway.

ITC... the results show some close times... where are the stories???

ok and one last thing... in tech... Greg you mentioned that you were worried about the compression test... How was it done, and with what tools (can you post a link to the equipment online?). I am very intersted in our local regions having the actual knowledge and ability to test compression ratios. Was anyone DQ&#39;d in tech this year for that or anything else?

ok, I am out, great job to all, we all (The RST gang) missed you!!! Time to pray for snow and ice... skiing and ice racing here we come!!!

Raymond

PS: One last thing I noticed... when you have IT-7 cars finishing in the top 6 of a 36 car field of ITA and IT-7 cars, I don&#39;t think it is time for your car (the RX-7) to move into ITB!!! Actually a real question... do IT-7 cars get something that "IT" cars don&#39;t thus making it appear as though an RX-7 is still competitive in ITA when it really isn&#39;t?

Greg Amy
11-13-2006, 12:34 PM
Thanks, Raymond. Sorry you weren&#39;t there, we missed you...

On the compression: my engine was partially disassembled, so it&#39;s not something that we can be prepared to do on a regular basis within the division.

No one was DQ&#39;d in ITS-A-B-C that I am aware of; I heard rumors an IT-7 was tossed for ride height or air dam infraction? Jake could speak to that.

It was clear that the focus was on ITA this year, that they (we!) wanted to make sure the winner was legit. The NX was the absolute last car released from tech for the day (even though we were the fourth race), and we were still there well after the last races were complete (and the sun was dipping). On my car they removed and inspected the intake and exhaust manifolds, and had us remove the head from the car. They manually measured the bore and stroke, and "cc&#39;d" the piston dish and combustion chamber, and measured the head gasket. From that they could calculate the compression ratio accurately.

The second and third place cars had to remove the manifolds - but not the heads - for inspection. I inferred from the inspector was that if my car had failed they were prepared to begin teardown on Ruck&#39;s second place car, and third place if necessary. I saw Bob Stretch&#39;s fourth place car in the impound area (he was not torn down), but I don&#39;t recall if I saw any others there.

Obviously, we were all weighed (I came in 12 pounds heavy), and the inspector also had us remove the spare tire from the car to asssure I had not filled it with something (hell, it wasn&#39;t even pressurized) and I was also told by a crew guy that they measured our oddball rear rollcage mounting plates for size.

Our "concern" in regards to compression arose from some of the numbers they were getting during the measurement process. They didn&#39;t "seem" right - not in terms of their measurement techniques or standards, but the actual numbers themselves did not seem familiar. It gave us quite a fright, especially when they were inside the tech office for an extended period of time (~45 minutes). However, in the end we were released with no problems and awarded the win.

That 21st lap is always the most stressful...

Tech/Impound at the ARRC was NOT an adversarial relationship whatsoever; the Atlanta Region tech inspectors were very pleasant and helpful, even allowing Matt to double-check measurements himself. They allowed our crew guys close access to co-observe all their processes. They double-checked just about everything and went overboard to assure their accuracy; we are completely satisfied with their techniques, processes, and measurements.

On a somewhat-related side note, Matt had built a fresh engine specifically for the ARRC in order to make sure we arrived with a maximum effort. Unfortunately, we ran out of time; Matt was about one day short of being able to install it before our departure for Georgia. We brought it along with us but it stayed strapped in the back of the van the whole week. However, not only did we not need it (thankfully!) but we can proudly say that the engine that was torn down at the ARRC is the same one we used all year long in the Northeast. That is significant in the sense that it should dispell any concerns (assuming there were any) regarding our engine legality during the 2006 NARRC and NERRC season. Hell, we&#39;re still running the same transaxle, clutch disc, and pressure plate that we installed 3 years ago!

Watch for wrap-ups, thoughts, ideas, photos, etc at our web site; I&#39;m hoping we can have something in process in a day or two (gotta catch up with reality first!)

Thanks again, all!

Greg

gsbaker
11-13-2006, 12:50 PM
(All together now, to the famous "T0-GA! TO-GA!" chant of Animal House...)

A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY! A-MY!...

:happy204: :cavallo: :birra: :smilie_pokal:

Butch Kummer
11-13-2006, 01:37 PM
The ITS cars running with the TCC Vettes was a joke. What were they thinking???? David Spillman was running a solid 3rd and got taken by one of the TCC cars damaging his quick 240Z.
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Just so this doesn&#39;t get lost, I&#39;ll be glad to debate this decision with anyone who ever had responsibility for putting over 300 cars into seven race groups in one day:

We had 27 ITS cars pre-registered in Group 5 (the smallest of the "normal" IT Groups) and over 60 cars in Group 6 (SPO, GTA, LMSC, ITO and TCC), 15 of which were TCC Corvettes. The stewards were considering having split qualifying sessions for Group 6 with each session being 15 minutes, but besides extending the day that also penalizes guys that towed over 800 miles one-way to be at the event. Moving the TCC cars into Group 5 created two groups of 40-45 cars with similar speed and size characteristics, and I fully support the Stewards decisions to do so.

As far as the TCC cars messing up the ITS race, the conditions were the same for everyone. Part of racing is dealing with traffic, some slower and some faster. Next year ITS will have to share the track with ITR (assuming that happens), so that class&#39;s days of being the stars of their own show are over - it just happened a year earlier than I thought it would. And even if it was an all ITS race in 2006, who&#39;s to say an ITS back-marker wouldn&#39;t have affected the eventual outcome either?

And don&#39;t tell me to "dis-invite" the non-IT cars because they are making up a larger percentage of the participation every year, they&#39;re paying the same entry fee as everyone else and deserve the same amount of track time for their money.

Congratulations to the winners, condolences to the non-winners and we hope to see y&#39;all in 2007 (we&#39;ve already begun the planning process)...

Butch Kummer
ARRC Committee Chairman
Atlanta Region Competition Director

dspillrat
11-13-2006, 02:04 PM
ITS from front row perspective....8 seconds worth!!

ITS was a little slower time wise when compared historically to last 5 years, weather had some effect....course many of "big" names no longer racing with ITS...Trembly, Haskell, Wittle, Thomas, Clay and others that have moved on to larger ponds, or just quit racing. Natural ebb and flow of participants I guess.
Paired with those dang vettes will be a sure way of depleteing our ranks at the ARRC. Split start spaced what, 10 seconds apart defeated purpose of split...I&#39;d rather started in the middle of TCC crowd , then trying to get around the slow end of that field.

Bills Corrado, Is a bullet!! Hard to understand his 4 wheel discs having cooling issues....great drive Bill, smart driving at that to realize impending brake failure, before comple loss occurs.

From my front row start, and I might add at the ARRC no less, nerves were a issue. Haven&#39;t been up front in several years. Huffmaster is good kid...but I did leave him plenty of room down the hill, my carwouldn&#39;t hold up to the beating that he and Wttle gave each other before the green flag last year. Great start the datsun torque pulled a half car length, only to brain fart and brake early at normal spot at end of pit out wall :bash_1_: ......Kip took my position, and frankly I was surprised I didn&#39;t lose more spots...

The VW gradually made up time on me and passed aftger 3 laps or so, for a couple of laps Bill pulled out further, until brakes became a issue, got back around cleanly. Lap or two more 3rd thru 6 positions became "stuck" behind a Vette Lap after Lap...Vette was slowed in 12 by a lap car, and I finally got by in one, Yes, I had installed the chicane behind me!! Had been able to save tires and brakes somewhat behind the vette, and I&#39;m comfortable in finishing race while running respectable laps. Somehow the Vette I&#39;d just passed in turn one manages to just run me down on back straight enough to pull a incredibly dumbass dive bomb on me in 10-a.....hey Dude we&#39;re not racing ..matter of fact no one in sight behind you, no one in sight in front of you....Why slide out of control off track then back across track to collect me? AGGHHH...
But quite honestly Having only raced a couple of times this year, I was surprised with the success I had during the weekend, give me some more track time in 07, and the old Datsun will be back with vengence next year....Just please don&#39;t put us with the vettes!!!!

Couple of stories in ITS race had to be the vettes... and a couple of passes made while yellow out in one......no papers filed, workers didn&#39;t report, so really I guess it didn&#39;t happen.

If the ITS group had more cars, we might have dodged the vette implants, but we just have to get more cars out there at the ARRC.

David Spillman

seckerich
11-13-2006, 02:18 PM
Glad to see you post this Butch. I would agree that the size and lap times were close but the speed differences in most areas of the track were big. You did the best you could given the situation and given the mess group 6 turned out to be I&#39;m sure they were glad to get out. Congratulations on a well run event from start to finish. I have not run Atlanta for many years and it was fun to come back and run with this group. The ITS drivers were all a class act and drove hard and clean and were a pleasure to race against.

That said--registration left something to be desired. ONE line for drivers who just needed to pay or add a worker? Stood in line Thursday night for over an hour when the line went all the way into the parking lot and all the other windows were asking for "Express" entries but could not find the time to help the one poor lady who was handling 80% of the entries. Everyone does not know a month ahead when we enter who can get off work to crew. Many just needed to hand them a check--only one person capable of handling money? I saw the "Express line empty for 30 minutes and would not help anyone else and you were standing there with us. If this was an attempt to teach us to enter and do everything online or pay by standing in a very long line--I got the message. I may just choose to spend my money elsewhere next time. No disrespect to the volunteers and I thanked the lady who finally registered me for working.

DavidM
11-13-2006, 02:48 PM
Evan blew one of his brand new ground control advance design struts in the ITA sprint race, but said he managed to pass Bob before it completely went and put him out. I don&#39;t know what happened in the enduro. He didn&#39;t have a very good weekend as his truck is leaking diesel fuel as well and hopefully he makes it back home sometime today. Thanks to Chris and Francis for the hospitality and yummy cajun food.

The start of the ITA race was a mess behind the first few rows. A yellow miata went off in one, dirt tracked around the outside, and shot back onto the track. I had visions of a t-bone with a massive pile up and eased off to attempt to avoid any contact. He somehow saved it without hitting anyone or being hit, which meant I promptly got passed by 5 or 6 cars. I then got stuck on the outside behind all the other people that had let up. Once things sorted out I wound up behind the two GMC cars in the race - the fiero and spirit. I was much better than they were from 1-6 and was right behind them in 7, but they pulled 2-3 car lengths on me down the back straight. The fiero got slowed coming out of 10 while being lapped and I managed to get by. I had an IT7 guy behind me for a while, but pulled away from him and had a boring race the rest of the way. I managed to knock 2 seconds off my personal best lap time, but I&#39;m still pretty damn slow. I had lots of fun, though.

David

Butch Kummer
11-13-2006, 02:54 PM
Steve,

Registration continues to be one of our challenges and we&#39;re still working on it. Adding crew members and/or changing drivers requires additional paperwork to be filed (lawyers and waivers), but I agree that having a "need to pay only" window is a viable option. I&#39;ll add it to the list.

Putting TCC in with ITS seemed to be the least offensive solution to the oversubscription in Group 6. It&#39;s likely ITS will be combined with ITR in 2007, TCC in with ITO (which has a chance to be a BIG class if we can get the word out during the year), then SPO, GTA & LMSC as a separate group. Now all I need to do is figure out how to add an extra hour of sunlight to Saturdays in November. And don&#39;t forget the open-wheeled folks are complaining about speed (and experience) disparities in their group as well.

If the (National) BOD maintains their recent direction of adding National classes and letting participation determine who competes at the Runoffs in 2008, the underlying philosophy of the ARRC could very well be altered, too. Instead of the "National Championship event for non-National classes", we may become the "National Championship event for non-Runoffs classes". Don&#39;t know HOW that one&#39;s going to fit into a three-day schedule (particularly when everybody wants Sunday to get home).

Thanks for your coments, we ARE listening...

Butch

RSTPerformance
11-13-2006, 02:59 PM
That said--registration left something to be desired. ONE line for drivers who just needed to pay or add a worker? Stood in line Thursday night for over an hour when the line went all the way into the parking lot and all the other windows were asking for "Express" entries but could not find the time to help the one poor lady who was handling 80% of the entries. Everyone does not know a month ahead when we enter who can get off work to crew. Many just needed to hand them a check--only one person capable of handling money? I saw the "Express line empty for 30 minutes and would not help anyone else and you were standing there with us. If this was an attempt to teach us to enter and do everything online or pay by standing in a very long line--I got the message. I may just choose to spend my money elsewhere next time. No disrespect to the volunteers and I thanked the lady who finally registered me for working.
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I was not at the event so I have no idea if registration is/was good or bad, but I can say the 3 times I have been it has been awful. I think if you were to do some research and look back at past ARRC postings you will see that EVERY YEAR the event as a whole is a class act, from parking to the trophies... However everyone with exceptions to some locals generally feel that registration is awful. Unfortunatly I doubt it will ever change, but think of positive, your standing in line drinking beer (or something else) with a bunch of friends, whats the difference between that and standing around your paddock spot?

Raymond "think positive" Blethen

R2 Racing
11-13-2006, 03:46 PM
Just finally got home about 1pm today and first things first, congrats to Greg on running a great race. He got out front and stayed there, even with Joe breathing down his neck for the first half of the race.

Prior to the race, I was finally feeling good for the first time the whole weekend. Up until then I wasn&#39;t very impressed with my driving and the car was screaming at me to quit fiddling around and give it the right setup. To solve the driving like crap issue, I realized that I was driving pretty conservatively in practice and qualifying because honestly, after how the last two months have gone, I wasn&#39;t about to wreck the damn thing again and not even make the race. I also spent some time watching my in-car and convincing myself to quit driving like a pussy. I adjusted the setup once again for the Saturday morning warm up session and was finally pretty happy with my driving and how the car felt. Before the race though, I made one more adjustment to the car that I was pretty confident was going to make it rotate a bit better in 7 and 10a. So all in all, I felt pretty good before the race.

At the start, I was able to get pass Bob Moser but allowed Bob Stretch to squeeze by into turn one. Down the backstraight, I was able to pass Stretch and firmly latch myself onto the back bumper of Greg and Joey up front. At the end of the fourth lap, Greg, Joey, and I were within 3/4 of a second of eachother and I had even clicked off two laps in the 1:43&#39;s. Unfortunately on lap five, I ran wide going into the esses, took a creative line through the grass, and gave up several car lengths to the leaders and allowed Bob Moser to catch up behind me. Then on that same lap I missed my shift to fifth down the backstraight, effectively giving third position to Bob and waving bye-bye to Greg and Joey. A very bad lap that was my fault and only mine. A little frustrating because I really thought I had the car to stay with those guys as it was just a rocket from start to finish. But, I did get to spend the next ten laps racing really hard with Bob Moser. We&#39;re both Great Lakes Division guys who know eachother well and just as expected, we never once touched. Not a single time. We passed eachother eleven times during that race and never once touched or made any rediculous dive bomb moves. Greg already said the same about Bob&#39;s son, Joey. These guys are just awesome and I love racing with them!

Anyways, on the 15th lap, I was finally able to get around Bob for the last time and stretched out on him in a last ditch, no chance in hell effort to catch Greg who was about 11 seconds ahead of me. At the end of the 20 laps, I had cut the gap down to about 7.5 seconds, but I&#39;m sure Greg was in cruise mode by that point.

All in all, I can&#39;t be too upset but I wanted that one badly. Really though, only 7.5 weeks prior to the ARRC, the car had been rolled over twice and I wasn&#39;t even sure if it was fixable, or if I even wanted to try. But after an absolute metric crap-ton of work by my Dad and I (mainly him!), we got it there, we ran well, and I came home improving on my 3rd place last year, with the fastest ITA lap time, and as the highest placing Integra. I suppose asking for more than that is getting greedy. But man am I glad the offseason is here because I need a break! :P

Oh yea, and Greg, I&#39;ve never been more excited to pop a head off of a car as I was at about 5pm on Saturday. Good show, old man! :023: Also, you should&#39;ve seen my face as I was coming down the hill into 10a and saw your car go completely sideways! I thought for sure you were about 1/2 a second from being buried to your axles in the sandtrap. The only thing I could think of was "Oh my God, the Great Lakes Division is about to take first through fourth at the ITA ARRC race!" (we were 2nd through 5th at the time, prior to Jan and Joey&#39;s mechanical failures). But that all got dashed quickly, as Greg somehow pulled that thing back in! It gave me a great idea though. Since he&#39;s selling the egg and looking for something different, how does "Greg Amy, professional drifter" sound? :blink:

I&#39;ll try and get some of my in-car video up sometime soon so you guys can see Bob and I going at it. It&#39;s great video!

DavidM
11-13-2006, 03:59 PM
Steve,

Registration continues to be one of our challenges and we&#39;re still working on it. Adding crew members and/or changing drivers requires additional paperwork to be filed (lawyers and waivers), but I agree that having a "need to pay only" window is a viable option. I&#39;ll add it to the list.

Putting TCC in with ITS seemed to be the least offensive solution to the oversubscription in Group 6. It&#39;s likely ITS will be combined with ITR in 2007, TCC in with ITO (which has a chance to be a BIG class if we can get the word out during the year), then SPO, GTA & LMSC as a separate group. Now all I need to do is figure out how to add an extra hour of sunlight to Saturdays in November. And don&#39;t forget the open-wheeled folks are complaining about speed (and experience) disparities in their group as well.

If the (National) BOD maintains their recent direction of adding National classes and letting participation determine who competes at the Runoffs in 2008, the underlying philosophy of the ARRC could very well be altered, too. Instead of the "National Championship event for non-National classes", we may become the "National Championship event for non-Runoffs classes". Don&#39;t know HOW that one&#39;s going to fit into a three-day schedule (particularly when everybody wants Sunday to get home).

Thanks for your coments, we ARE listening...

Butch
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I think the biggest issue was that the express line wasn&#39;t. There was one window for express and 3 for other. I think two windows for express (pre-paid with no changes) and two for other would work. If either line gets empty then the empty windows should be able to help people in the other line as well. And make sure it&#39;s clear that express is for no changes only.

As mentioned, waiting in line is good for drinking beer and socializing so it wasn&#39;t that bad, but it&#39;d be nice if it was faster.

David

JLawton
11-13-2006, 04:04 PM
I then got stuck on the outside behind all the other people that had let up. Once things sorted out I wound up behind the two GMC cars in the race - the fiero and spirit.
David
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Hey, hey hey!!! There were three GM products there!! <_<

I probably would have won first place of the American made cars if I didn&#39;t try 4 wheelin&#39; through the gravel!!! :mad1:

jmark
11-13-2006, 04:13 PM
Start of the ITS race.

dj10
11-13-2006, 04:38 PM
Start of the ITS race. [/b]



WHAT&#39;S THIS? A CLEAN START?????? Hey Rob, how come you aren&#39;t banging up against the Z Car like Whittel did to you last year in which no called (they just let him do it)!!? :D Sounds like this year was a better class of drivers. Congrats all.

greendot
11-13-2006, 04:55 PM
Due to the beating that I took in turn 2 at the start of the PRO-IT race I had the opportunity to take video of the ITS/TCC action at 10a-b. Some awesome racing. I&#39;ll figure out how to post it up for your enjoyment.

Will also give the blow by blow of the PRO race start later.

Bruce Wentzel

ITS #36, now permanently retired :(

gran racing
11-13-2006, 05:04 PM
While I realize that Greg partially thinks I&#39;m just teasing him for having some difficulty getting out of the car (and posting that video, and talking about him falling off the Gyro :unsure:) it was so great to see him and Matt achieve this accomplishment and how excited they and so many of us were. I&#39;m still smiling about your win. Oh, your revenge threat in similar circumstances sounds great to me!


Hey, when is Road Atlanta going to start allowing mail deliveries again?
(Sorry Kevin, but how could I resist?) :D

CaptainWho
11-13-2006, 05:14 PM
... do IT-7 cars get something that "IT" cars don&#39;t thus making it appear as though an RX-7 is still competitive in ITA when it really isn&#39;t?
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Not under the SEDiv rules ... an IT7 car is simply an ITA RX-7 with an IT7 sticker instead of an ITA sticker ... and some regions/series impose a spec tire on IT7 that isn&#39;t imposed on ITA. AFAIK, those are the only differences allowed under the rules. There is no doubt that there are some fast IT7 cars in the southeast, and especially at Road Atlanta (lots from Atl Region but a number from "neighbor" regions, too).



No one was DQ&#39;d in ITS-A-B-C that I am aware of; I heard rumors an IT-7 was tossed for ride height or air dam infraction? Jake could speak to that.
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I can verify that. Freddy Klopper got DQed for having an airdam that extended below the bottom of the rim.

dominojd
11-13-2006, 07:41 PM
Not under the SEDiv rules ... an IT7 car is simply an ITA RX-7 with an IT7 sticker instead of an ITA sticker ... and some regions/series impose a spec tire on IT7 that isn&#39;t imposed on ITA. AFAIK, those are the only differences allowed under the rules. There is no doubt that there are some fast IT7 cars in the southeast, and especially at Road Atlanta (lots from Atl Region but a number from "neighbor" regions, too).

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I was wondering the same thing about the IT7 cars. It seemed a little odd that I pulled every other ITA and IT7 car on the back straight except for a few of the IT7 leaders

mlytle
11-13-2006, 09:49 PM
WHAT&#39;S THIS? A CLEAN START?????? Hey Rob, how come you aren&#39;t banging up against the Z Car like Whittel did to you last year in which no called (they just let him do it)!!? :D Sounds like this year was a better class of drivers. Congrats all.
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hey dj...how come your name wasn&#39;t in the results anywhere???

marshall

RickyBobby
11-13-2006, 10:19 PM
Andy,

I hadn&#39;t noticed that... thanks for pointing it out! Too bad the BMW guys couldn&#39;t see fit to show up and put their complaints to the test... Perhaps they were afraid that they&#39;d provide some proof that the 27mm restrictor was the right call after all... ;)
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Great attitude for the chairman of the ITAC. No agenda or bias here. :018:



Great to see such a good mix of cars... Hopefully that provides incentive for may others out there to give it a go... IT Looks like it&#39;s heading strongly into the future! [/b]

Except for ITS. After the BMW debacle of this year nobody in there right mind would sink the kind of money into a car that we have seen in previous years. That&#39;s what IT social engineering brings, unintended consequences...

Funny, nobody is concerned that two different Mazda models walked away from the ITS field. Things are finally right in the ITS universe... :o



Great work guys and congrats to those who participated...
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Congratulations to all of the winners and participants! :happy204:

Woo Hoo... Ricky!

Edwin Ho
11-13-2006, 11:15 PM
ITC... the results show some close times... where are the stories???[/b]

I was definately feeling withdrawal. Wished I could have been out there, but I sold the C car. Looks like Fruth got run off the track at turn 1 and contact between Rebstock and Perry left Rebstock off the back. Silegren and Reynolds pulled a big gap and after battling for several laps, Silegren ended up with a big lead. Fruth worked all the way up to battle with Reynolds, but spun between 10a and 10b to end up P3. Props to Devin Box for finishing P4 on his first visit to RA. He&#39;s a long time competitor of mine at Waterford Hills and was my student in his driver&#39;s school.





it looks like they are the only ones that did not get laped by the TCC corvetes
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Actually, the TCC leader lapped all the ITS cars TWICE except for Huffmaster and VanSteenburg. I understand why the Vettes got moved, but they really played havoc with the ITS leaders. I think there were two problems. First, I heard over the scanner that the second pace car was directed to follow 100 yds behind the TCC field. That allowed Huffmaster to catch the Vettes almost immediately. Had they given a bigger gap, it would have taken much longer for that to happen. The Vettes would have caught the tail end of the ITS field sooner, but with their straight line speed, it wouldn&#39;t have been much of a factor. Second, the backmarker TCC cars looked like they decided to "race" the ITS cars. One driver even said he didn&#39;t let Huffmaster go because he was racing for position. I&#39;m not sure how you race for position when the competitor in front and behind you aren&#39;t even visible on the track. :wacko:

As for registration, I was done in less then 15 minutes. Fantastic! It does sound like many had long wait and were frustrated with looking at empty windows while doing so, but so far it appears that it went better then years past. Hopefully, it will improve every year.

The ARRC has proven to be a great event once again. Thanks to all the workers/organizers!

Ed.

R2 Racing
11-13-2006, 11:16 PM
Hey, when is Road Atlanta going to start allowing mail deliveries again?
(Sorry Kevin, but how could I resist?) :D
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**coughfastestracelapcough** Damn, I think I might be getting a cold. ;) (Hey, nice mention on the book in this months Grassroots, btw!)



Except for ITS. After the BMW debacle of this year nobody in there right mind would sink the kind of money into a car that we have seen in previous years. That&#39;s what IT social engineering brings, unintended consequences...

Funny, nobody is concerned that two different Mazda models walked away from the ITS field. Things are finally right in the ITS universe... :o [/b]
I&#39;m not sure if you&#39;re joking or not, but I think not. Did you even look at the results before you started crying? ITS featured six different cars in the top eight and ITA featured seven different cars in the top nine! Hell, even a small class like ITC saw three different cars on the podium! It seems like the ITAC is doing one hell of a fine job to me.

Also, nevermind that those two guys who took first and second this year in ITS are absofreakinglutely stellar drivers with insanely prepared cars and each have one hell of a racing resume to boot. Don&#39;t take anything away from them and get the hell off of your soapbox.

IPRESS
11-14-2006, 12:49 AM
Evan blew one of his brand new ground control advance design struts in the ITA sprint race, but said he managed to pass Bob before it completely went and put him out. I don&#39;t know what happened in the enduro. He didn&#39;t have a very good weekend as his truck is leaking diesel fuel as well and hopefully he makes it back home sometime today. Thanks to Chris and Francis for the hospitality and yummy cajun food.

The start of the ITA race was a mess behind the first few rows. A yellow miata went off in one, dirt tracked around the outside, and shot back onto the track. I had visions of a t-bone with a massive pile up and eased off to attempt to avoid any contact. He somehow saved it without hitting anyone or being hit, which meant I promptly got passed by 5 or 6 cars. I then got stuck on the outside behind all the other people that had let up. Once things sorted out I wound up behind the two GMC cars in the race - the fiero and spirit. I was much better than they were from 1-6 and was right behind them in 7, but they pulled 2-3 car lengths on me down the back straight. The fiero got slowed coming out of 10 while being lapped and I managed to get by. I had an IT7 guy behind me for a while, but pulled away from him and had a boring race the rest of the way. I managed to knock 2 seconds off my personal best lap time, but I&#39;m still pretty damn slow. I had lots of fun, though.

David
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David,
I thought it was sort of a mess myself since I was the guy in the "yeller miata". I was in the middle of the track at the flag stand when I became "the meat in a three car sandwich" somehow the car on the left disengaged and I was knocked sideways into the grass and in the process of missing the wall I spun back onto the track where I was sure I would get pounded. Due to the excellent skills of my fellow ITA drivers I escaped without a scratch. (Well not exactly, as it didn&#39;t show up until the enduro.) The rest of the race was challenge and working back up through the pack made it fun. It is always a big deal for me to come race against the best Regional racers at the ARRC. Also to set the record straight... I told Stretch before the Miata Madness race that I would run as his blocker to keep all the rest of the ITA miatas off of him as a reward for his tough Runoffs weekend and we could split winnings. (That was after seeing we were the only two ITA entries.) :D Who says Bob doesn&#39;t enjoy a good joke!
It was nice to meet and put a face on posters here on the board. ITA seems to be strong as ever, (SEDIV always makes it seem that way) now if I can get Bob to go Pro racing next season it could be real fun down here.
BIG THANKS to all in Atlanta Region. From Fletcher all the way through to the Stewards never been treated better.
One suggestion- Butch, instead of the subtle way you got everyones attention at the drivers meeting, next year lets have some umbrella girls (like the F1 races) ask for quiet! I &#39;ll show up a few days early if you need help finding them!!!! :D

roberthuff24
11-14-2006, 01:31 AM
"Reports were that the Miata had the RXs number in the twisty section and off turn 7, but Huffmaster was very wide in the first part of the straight, and Kip was just not strong enough at the end to make anything stick."


Actually, when i wasnt held up by corvettes in 3 i could pull about five car lengths on kip from there till 7, out of 7 we were dead even all the way till fifth gear and then via draft/5th gear in the miata he would actually close up to my bumber which made for some interesting 10a braking zones. All around we were very close in the mid laps of the race.

I have to thank kip, he was great to race with, very clean, i am sure he could have bumped me a couple of times coming out of 10a but he ran a clean race and i thank him for that. The start was good this year, kip and spillman were both great guys to meet and to race against and i hope to race against them more in the coming years.

The weekend was awesome, got to hang out with fellow waterford hills racers and had a great time saturday night in the infield. All around it was a great weekend and i look foward to coming back next year.

Good Job CenDiv 1, 3 in ITS 2, 3 in ITA 3 in ITC with the fastest laps in all three :happy204:


Rob

Banzai240
11-14-2006, 09:25 AM
Great attitude for the chairman of the ITAC. No agenda or bias here. :018: [/b]

Last time I checked... I am not the chairman of the ITAC... I&#39;m allowed to have any agenda I want now... And the fact that track records are still being set with restricted BMWs favors my opinion... Namely that once these guys figured out (WITH an EXTENSIVE amount of ITAC help, I will add...) how to install these things properely, they&#39;ll work just fine... and they do... It&#39;s the same opinion I&#39;ve had, and supported, from the beginning, ITAC Chair or not... It&#39;s what happens when you can take an objective look at the topic...




Except for ITS. After the BMW debacle of this year nobody in there right mind would sink the kind of money into a car that we have seen in previous years. That&#39;s what IT social engineering brings, unintended consequences...[/b]

You&#39;re right... heaven forbid cars have to race on a level playing field or actually have to put money into BUILDING a race motor... :rolleyes:

Have fun!

Bildon
11-14-2006, 09:44 AM
>> the fact that track records are still being set with restricted BMWs

I hope this doesn&#39;t degrade to one of those &#39;BMW vs the World&#39; threads but I&#39;d like to say that a WELL DRIVEN , well sorted SIR BMW is STILL competitive in ITS. DJ10 here can kick my butt when he&#39;s on his game. At Watkins Glen this year I had a CV joint break but until that point I could NOT catch him. And the Corrado is a fast car. :dead_horse: Dan went on to win at Mid-Ohio, Nelson....

Some guys need to learn to prep, learn to drive and stop whining.

I would be actually be interested in racing a 325is next year to see how &#39;horribly slow&#39; they are. <_<

lateapex911
11-14-2006, 09:52 AM
Great attitude for the chairman of the ITAC. No agenda or bias here. :018:
Except for ITS. After the BMW debacle of this year nobody in there right mind would sink the kind of money into a car that we have seen in previous years. That&#39;s what IT social engineering brings, unintended consequences...

Funny, nobody is concerned that two different Mazda models walked away from the ITS field. Things are finally right in the ITS universe... :o
Congratulations to all of the winners and participants! :happy204:

Woo Hoo... Ricky!
[/b]

Not going to take the bait....

.....except to say that right from the start of your post your facts show how well infomed and attentive you are. Or aren&#39;t.

charrbq
11-14-2006, 10:42 AM
Wish I could&#39;ve gotten in earlier on this thread before it turned into people taking aim at BMW&#39;s, the ITAC, and one another...whatever.

First, hope everyone enjoyed the jambalya and gumbo at our party. The weather was just about perfect for the gumbo. Our cook enjoys his job and loves to share it with people. Unfortunately, this will probably be his last trip. An unfortunate motor scooter accident on Saturday night left him wounded and hobbling. If you think the food at night was good, you should be in on the crew lunches. Things like fried tilapia smothered with crawfish etofee...but I digress. Hope everyone enjoyed it.

Now...magnum congratulations to Trevor for his ITB triumph! Seldom have I seen the pit row erupt in such cheers by so many people. You&#39;re my hero, Dude! Anyone who wonders what it means to win an event of this magnitude should&#39;ve been near victory lane or within earshot of the PA when Trevor spoke afterward. Joy, tears and thanks were shared by all. As many of us know, the proudest person wasn&#39;t there, but he saw that glorious moment.

That&#39;s what it&#39;s all about. :smilie_pokal: :023: :happy204:

kthomas
11-14-2006, 10:42 AM
"nevermind that those two guys who took first and second this year in ITS are absofreakinglutely stellar drivers with insanely prepared cars and each have one hell of a racing resume to boot"

I believe that&#39;s usually the case, as it should be....

seckerich
11-14-2006, 12:41 PM
"Reports were that the Miata had the RXs number in the twisty section and off turn 7, but Huffmaster was very wide in the first part of the straight, and Kip was just not strong enough at the end to make anything stick."
Actually, when i wasnt held up by corvettes in 3 i could pull about five car lengths on kip from there till 7, out of 7 we were dead even all the way till fifth gear and then via draft/5th gear in the miata he would actually close up to my bumber which made for some interesting 10a braking zones. All around we were very close in the mid laps of the race.

I have to thank kip, he was great to race with, very clean, i am sure he could have bumped me a couple of times coming out of 10a but he ran a clean race and i thank him for that. The start was good this year, kip and spillman were both great guys to meet and to race against and i hope to race against them more in the coming years.

The weekend was awesome, got to hang out with fellow waterford hills racers and had a great time saturday night in the infield. All around it was a great weekend and i look foward to coming back next year.

Good Job CenDiv 1, 3 in ITS 2, 3 in ITA 3 in ITC with the fastest laps in all three :happy204:
Rob
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Congratulations on a very impressive weekend Rob. I really appreciated your help Thursday helping me learn the line. You would think I would run Atlanta as close as I live. :rolleyes: David Spillman will be hard to beat this year after his impressive drive from the back at VIR and a strong run at the ARRC before a bonehead move took him out. Met some great people at the event and made some new friends--That is what this is all about in the end.

lateapex911
11-14-2006, 03:17 PM
I was wondering the same thing about the IT7 cars. It seemed a little odd that I pulled every other ITA and IT7 car on the back straight except for a few of the IT7 leaders
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Yes, well, I inquired with the IT7 Road Atlanta regulars, guys who can turn 47s all day long in their sleep, and my answer to the question of where that ungodly time of 1:45 came from resulted in two comments:

- The car is driven VERy hard, and uses ALL of the track. Not much left on the table there..
- And it handles VERY well on the straight.

When I pressed the last comment, I just got shakes and shrugs. And frowns. LOL.

All I know is I wish I could find a way to make MY car run like that down the straight!

(That said, just to put things in reference, my motor is a 1 yr old ISC build, but my carb is bone stock...borrowed just for this event, as my Yaw carb had to go back to Yaw for a looking at as it ceased to run correctly a year ago. Still waiting for him to return it- or a phone call. Thanks to NE racer Grant McStay for the kind loan of his never opened carb. Seemed to run OK, Grant. EGT temps were about 200 to 300 off front to rear though. Maybe theres a bit more power there? ;) )

crushed
11-14-2006, 04:19 PM
Yes, well, I inquired with the IT7 Road Atlanta regulars, guys who can turn 47s all day long in their sleep, and my answer to the question of where that ungodly time of 1:45 came from resulted in two comments:

- The car is driven VERy hard, and uses ALL of the track. Not much left on the table there..
- And it handles VERY well on the straight.

When I pressed the last comment, I just got shakes and shrugs. And frowns. LOL.

All I know is I wish I could find a way to make MY car run like that down the straight!

(That said, just to put things in reference, my motor is a 1 yr old ISC build, but my carb is bone stock...borrowed just for this event, as my Yaw carb had to go back to Yaw for a looking at as it ceased to run correctly a year ago. Still waiting for him to return it- or a phone call. Thanks to NE racer Grant McStay for the kind loan of his never opened carb. Seemed to run OK, Grant. EGT temps were about 200 to 300 off front to rear though. Maybe theres a bit more power there? ;) )
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At least people give me some credit for driving the shit out of the car before they say I have crazy power :) I swear the motor is nothing special. When I was running with Jeff Ryan on the back straight I could barely pull along side him with a draft, exiting 7 pretty much on his bumper. I tried bump drafting with him a few times and could only touch him twice. There are a few other IT-7 cars out there with WAY more. If Jeff would put some Hoosiers on his car It would have been a very close race, his car was pretty loose. Sean was right there too.

My secret? 11.3:1 air fuel ratio. If I figure out how to lean the damn thing out without going smaller than 150s in the secondaries then I&#39;ll be in business! Last dyno showed 120 whp, I don&#39;t think that&#39;s too much...

eho
11-14-2006, 05:02 PM
Oops, double post.

Edwin Ho
11-14-2006, 05:14 PM
Met some great people at the event and made some new friends--That is what this is all about in the end.
[/b]

Hear, hear! Your help/advice was invaluable since I was so unfamiliar with Ray&#39;s & Rob&#39;s cars. I knew I was in trouble when the tech inspector asked me to pull the head on Rob&#39;s car. :rolleyes:

Good to meet you.

Ed.

lateapex911
11-14-2006, 05:28 PM
At least people give me some credit for driving the shit out of the car before they say I have crazy power :) I swear the motor is nothing special. When I was running with Jeff Ryan on the back straight I could barely pull along side him with a draft, exiting 7 pretty much on his bumper. I tried bump drafting with him a few times and could only touch him twice. There are a few other IT-7 cars out there with WAY more. If Jeff would put some Hoosiers on his car It would have been a very close race, his car was pretty loose. Sean was right there too.

My secret? 11.3:1 air fuel ratio. If I figure out how to lean the damn thing out without going smaller than 150s in the secondaries then I&#39;ll be in business! Last dyno showed 120 whp, I don&#39;t think that&#39;s too much...
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Interesting...what kind of dyno was that?

crushed
11-14-2006, 05:39 PM
It was on a dynocom (http://www.dynocom.net/). I made around 115 on a dynojet (dynolab in atlanta), took it up to the dynocom about a month later and made close to the same (within 1 or 2 hp), then was able to tune out a few more HP. Those numbers should be comparable to dynojet numbers as this is also an inertia dyno, I didn&#39;t use the eddy brake. All HP numbers are SAE corrected.

Speed Raycer
11-14-2006, 05:53 PM
my Yaw carb had to go back to Yaw for a looking at as it ceased to run correctly a year ago. Still waiting for him to return it- or a phone call.
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www.pbandjracing.com Talk to Carl Perez ;)

greendot
11-14-2006, 05:55 PM
Here’s the tale of the PRO-IT fiasco at turn 2, lap 1
I was qualified 4th, next to Russ Marshall (IT-7) with Bob Stretch 5th.
Start was surprisingly reserved. Not the WOT from the instant the pace car pulls off that I’d seen most of the time at Atlanta.
Coming to T2, Gerald Potts (Q2) pushed out to, if not slightly off, the edge of the track and I was giving him room to recover. Russ Marshall was at my right rear fender.
Suddenly I got hit pretty hard and spun 360 to the right side of the track.

Kudos to all those that missed me on the way past. :happy204:

From 3 separate witnesses, I heard that Stretch had run into Marshall, driving him into me. I also heard that Stretch denies this. I can say that the impact was hard enough to bend a tie rod on Marshall’s car and put him out of the race.
I had nearly come to a stop from the spin and was getting back up to speed on far right side of track when I thought I got rammed from the rear, which drove me into the absurd wall configuration where the barrier is NOT parallel to the track due to an access road. :angry:
I later learned from a spectator’s video that Derek Lugar had actually clipped me on the side as the pack he was in came by 3 wide and he was nearly past me when the contact occurred. He was being squeezed right and I’m sure he had no idea of the result to me as he was then pretty busy keeping his car under control as he got pulled off track somewhat from the contact.
Lessons learned? Face the video camera rearward so you have evidence who did what. It took me a while to gather this information from witnesses that I’d have had right away with the camera.
My car’s a total and Russ was put out of the race because one person drove like a bull in a china shop. I’d like to see his in car video.
Kudos also to Russ Marshall for his sportsmanship. He was the first person to find me when I got to impound so he could apologize for the incident that was not his fault.

Bruce Wentzel, was ITS 36

zracre
11-14-2006, 07:24 PM
Bruce, I was at turn 3 and just caught you as you nailed the wall...that didn&#39;t look like fun...I wish I was able to give a better report but just caught the carnage. that was a scary start in the pro it!.

It was a weekend of good and bad...great food and people and bad car...bad bad car! The car was pretty good despite my dissapointment at the dyno on wednesday at least it handled...I was 3rd fastest in second qualifying (6th overall really 5th as Colin&#39;s car was toast) and it was handling great! on the warmup lap the strut started to sag and get bouncy (LF) I tried real hard and got back by Stretch but it eventually turned my LF wheel into a basketball going into 6 so I just left. I endured the rain putting my wasted off the shelf 2 year old konis back in for the enduro. The car was average at best. I was having fun with chuck...caught him pretty well and decided to help him by a few cars. We went well together then we caught more traffic and I passed him in 10. He tucked under and we were off. I got crossed up at the exit of 5 (the car did that alot with the sucky struts) and Chuck was on a good drive out of 5...I heard the intake coming then BAM! I just saw the bottom of his car go over me like a Cessna! I probably would have tried the same thing to get by quickly but it just went all wrong. I hope he is doing well. It was just one of those things you wish you could do over...I guess I will next year! I helped with the food so if the cook can&#39;t come I will try to get the recipies and instructions! It was great to see all the people from the sandbox and IT.com. Thanks to David M and his wife for the help in the rain!! Everyone was nice and having fun.

dazzlesa
11-14-2006, 07:38 PM
bruce
i was behind the bmw. he got sideways up the hill. i have to agree that nobody gave an inch. somebody hammered my passenger door.
rick ITA #06

crushed
11-14-2006, 08:29 PM
The PRO-it was a mess. I was planning to just hang back and take it easy and collect some sweet contingency $$. I guess that&#39;s what I get. Sorry again about your car Bruce, hope to see you back out there soon...

--
Russ

fixrim
11-14-2006, 09:14 PM
The Pro IT race was a bit of a fiasco, however, for the record, I dont deny hitting the IT7 that was in front of me after T1.

As you know, we were all REALLY close after T1 and I was close enough to the IT7 that when he lifted and let off, I ran into the back of him. There was a car on my left and my right and on my bumper. Not like I had anywhere to go.... At about the same moment that we connected, I saw the BMW turned 90 degrees sideways through the windows in the IT7. Miraculously I went left and probably avoided the whole thing my inches. It was the closest call I have had in a long time.

I&#39;d challenge anyone in a pack that tight running wide open going up a hill NOT to bump the guy in front when he lifts!

I had also heard Marshalls car had a bent tie rod, but I am not sure F to B contact caused that...

Greg Amy
11-14-2006, 09:58 PM
Does anyone have the printout for the contingency prizes from the ARRC? I can&#39;t seem to find it on the ARRC web site any more... - Greg

Edwin Ho
11-14-2006, 10:41 PM
Does anyone have the printout for the contingency prizes from the ARRC? I can&#39;t seem to find it on the ARRC web site any more... - Greg
[/b]

Bottom left of the home page.

http://www.arrc-online.com/2006_arrc_contingency.pdf

Who do we contact about an error on the ITU track record? Ray Huffmaster ran a 1:42.227.





Good Job CenDiv 1, 3 in ITS 2, 3 in ITA 3 in ITC with the fastest laps in all three :happy204:
Rob
[/b]

How could you forget your dad? :018: 1st in ITU and a track record (at least unofficially for now).

Ed.

RickyBobby
11-15-2006, 11:42 AM
I had not heard that our esteemed Mr. Jordan stepped down as chairman of the ITAC. With all my sponsorships and committments, I don&#39;t have time for current events. I will say that’s good news! WoooHooo… :023:

Based on some of the comments here, I’m to assume that Mr. Jordan’s bias and attitude only started after he stepped down? Yeah right! :rolleyes:

You guys think I’m some dumb hick?

Shake and bake!!!!!

Ricky

Doc Bro
11-15-2006, 12:01 PM
You guys think I’m some dumb hick?

Ricky
[/b]


Nope.....just a guy who posts anonamously and tries to inflame people....basically a coward.

R

seckerich
11-15-2006, 12:32 PM
I had not heard that our esteemed Mr. Jordan stepped down as chairman of the ITAC. With all my sponsorships and committments, I don&#39;t have time for current events. I will say that’s good news! WoooHooo… :023:

Based on some of the comments here, I’m to assume that Mr. Jordan’s bias and attitude only started after he stepped down? Yeah right! :rolleyes:

You guys think I’m some dumb hick?

Shake and bake!!!!!

Ricky
[/b]
Try to sleeze on over and start a new thread on"How I drive a BMW and got screwed" and leave the ARRC discussion to people with something decent to say. You are not as bright and secretive as you think you are. Want your real email and IP listed on this site? Now be a Pr--K some more.

RSTPerformance
11-15-2006, 01:01 PM
You are an imposter Ricky Bobby... Ricky would never start the stupid crap you are starting... Till now I was a fan, I am now a fan of Cal Naughton, Jr.

Go Cal!!!

Raymond

gran racing
11-15-2006, 01:17 PM
.....just a guy who posts anonamously and tries to inflame people....basically a coward.[/b]

That&#39;s a much nicer way to phrase it than I would. What a prick.

Andy Bettencourt
11-15-2006, 02:01 PM
That&#39;s a much nicer way to phrase it than I would. What a prick. [/b]

It&#39;s ok guys. The heat in Miami must be getting to him. It&#39;s a classic case of someone not wanting to review the results and accept that it wasn&#39;t the death sentence it was portrayed to be by some.

The real kudo&#39;s go to the drivers and teams who stuck it out, made it work and still succeeded amidst great competition like Garcia, Maynard, Jones, etc. The situation sucked, it worked out, and now these teams have a choice to continue their development in ITS or go unrestriced and ballast-free in ITR. Issue closed.

I think the 2007 ARRC will be awesome as many who have never gone have decided to go. The tech reviews, the parties and the &#39;event&#39; are all top notch. Now Ruck - how about you and I team up to organize an "IT Festival" at Mid Ohio to compliment this race?

lateapex911
11-15-2006, 04:16 PM
I will say that’s good news! WoooHooo… :023:

Ricky
[/b]

You think that&#39;sn good news?? ha HA!

You don&#39;t know obviously, who was in the running for, and who actually got the position.

hee hee......


Don&#39;t worry, I&#39;m sure none of us think you&#39;re just dumb, or just a hick. Or even just a dumb hick. That&#39;s forgivable, kinda. We&#39;re bright enough to know it&#39;s actually much worse.

Bildon
11-15-2006, 04:17 PM
I put a LONG ITS race video up on our site for everyone&#39;s enjoyment. Here&#39;s a link to the VW forum thread.

http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/...indpost&p=95895 (http://itforum.improvedtouring.com/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=8810&view=findpost&p=95895)

R2 Racing
11-15-2006, 05:41 PM
Now Ruck - how about you and I team up to organize an "IT Festival" at Mid Ohio to compliment this race?
[/b]
I think I just pee&#39;d a little.

lateapex911
11-15-2006, 05:56 PM
I think I just pee&#39;d a little.
[/b]

Ummm Kevin??? I think THAT needs a little explanation, right?? ;)

mattbatson
11-15-2006, 07:58 PM
great video.
Look smooth and with very few mistakes.

Some of the vettes needed driving lessons B)

charrbq
11-15-2006, 08:07 PM
Come on guys. Just like a bad smell, if you ignore this "RickyBobby" clown, he&#39;ll go away. Insults are his only means of offense and defense. Reminds me of another clown from down his way that&#39;s starting his latest session of insults and inuendos.

Eagle7
11-15-2006, 08:44 PM
Now Ruck - how about you and I team up to organize an "IT Festival" at Mid Ohio to compliment this race?
[/b]
I&#39;m in! :happy204:

greendot
11-15-2006, 08:45 PM
The Pro IT race was a bit of a fiasco, however, for the record, I dont deny hitting the IT7 that was in front of me after T1.

As you know, we were all REALLY close after T1 and I was close enough to the IT7 that when he lifted and let off, I ran into the back of him. There was a car on my left and my right and on my bumper. Not like I had anywhere to go.... At about the same moment that we connected, I saw the BMW turned 90 degrees sideways through the windows in the IT7. Miraculously I went left and probably avoided the whole thing my inches. It was the closest call I have had in a long time.

I&#39;d challenge anyone in a pack that tight running wide open going up a hill NOT to bump the guy in front when he lifts!

I had also heard Marshalls car had a bent tie rod, but I am not sure F to B contact caused that...
[/b]

OK, as I said, it was second hand info about the contact/no contact between you and Russ. Thanks for clearing it up.

To clarify my statement about Russ&#39;s tie rod, I&#39;m sure that was caused by hs LF wheel into my RR wheel. Pretty easy to diagnose from the rubber marks on both cars.

Regarding a hit because the car in front of you lifted. That is a discussion in and of itself. Racing room? And as hard as he got into me, it seems that it was more than a bump due to a lift. Just my perspective.

So are you saying that Potts (yellow BMW) was sideways at that time? I wonder if I got pushed into him? No marks on my car to say so. The spin was so fast that I can&#39;t recall seeing anything between the time I got hit and when I was again pointed in the right direction at the right side of the track and moving very slowly.

gpbmw
11-15-2006, 10:02 PM
OK, as I said, it was second hand info about the contact/no contact between you and Russ. Thanks for clearing it up.

To clarify my statement about Russ&#39;s tie rod, I&#39;m sure that was caused by hs LF wheel into my RR wheel. Pretty easy to diagnose from the rubber marks on both cars.

Regarding a hit because the car in front of you lifted. That is a discussion in and of itself. Racing room? And as hard as he got into me, it seems that it was more than a bump due to a lift. Just my perspective.

So are you saying that Potts (yellow BMW) was sideways at that time? I wonder if I got pushed into him? No marks on my car to say so. The spin was so fast that I can&#39;t recall seeing anything between the time I got hit and when I was again pointed in the right direction at the right side of the track and moving very slowly.
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Going into turn 1 I was wide and and had two wheels on the gators going up the hill. The report that I was sideways is inaccurate. My car was not touched by any other car after I went wide. I held my lane even if it was wide.

Gerald Potts
ITS BMW E36 #51

R2 Racing
11-15-2006, 10:26 PM
Ummm Kevin??? I think THAT needs a little explanation, right?? ;)
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Jake, if I have to explain every little joke, than it just isn&#39;t funny anymore. Try and keep up. :P

paulydee
11-15-2006, 11:15 PM
Bill that was some fatastic footage. That was more interesting that any NASCRAP I have managed to have been subjected to. Very clean racing though the yellow incident was strange. Glad to see the RX-7&#39;s are being well represented again. Kudos to everyone that made it to the ARRC and participated. I am jealous.


Bill that was some fatastic footage. That was more interesting that any NASCRAP I have managed to have been subjected to. Very clean racing though the yellow incident was strange. Glad to see the RX-7&#39;s are being well represented again. Kudos to everyone that made it to the ARRC and participated. I am jealous.

emwavey
11-20-2006, 03:55 PM
Congrats to the yankee, "egg-boy". ;)

:happy204:

I sat out this year, what was originally going to be my first full season. However I&#39;m happy to report that mom and son are doing very well. (daddy now x2)

Hope to get back out in the next year or two and meet some more of you IT folks.

Joe Moser
11-20-2006, 07:36 PM
For anybody who is interested (Greg?), I&#39;ve posted the first few laps of the ITA Sprint Race (In-Car #63 ITA). Unfortunately, I had another car failure this year! I broke the RF Steering Knuckle in the best possible place at Road Atlanta (Between 10a and 10b) and glided into the gravel trap :(

2006 ARRC - ITA Sprint Race (ITA #63) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoGGTZ-UoCk)

Youtube.com makes you limit video to 10 minutes, so I&#39;ll have to extract Greg&#39;s near spin @ 10a and my suspension failure "off"... Not done with all that yet.

Congrats to Greg Amy, Kevin Ruck, and my Dad (Not bad for an old man!)! We&#39;ll be back next year hopefully to give it another run!

Joe Moser
#63 ITA Honda CRX

philstireservice
11-20-2006, 09:29 PM
OMG !!!! Does that lil egg pull ............sheesshh !!!

Bill Miller
11-20-2006, 09:59 PM
OMG !!!! Does that lil egg pull ............sheesshh !!!
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You&#39;re not kidding Phil!! Thanks Joe, that was some nice footage to watch! :023:

RSTPerformance
11-20-2006, 10:26 PM
the egg doesn&#39;t draft well... or should I say provide a draft well... dam...

Raymond

Rich Walke
11-20-2006, 11:10 PM
A belated thank you for everyone involved in putting on this year’s ARRC. What an event! Thank you Atlanta Region, Road Atlanta, the various event sponsors and my fellow ITS competitors. Also, congratulations to Rob Huffmaster for a great win and Kip Van Steenburg for his second place finish!

We headed down to Road Atlanta from the Chicago area cautiously optimistic about a podium finish. We had won ten of eleven races this year in the CENDIV Area 5 and set track records at every track we visited. However, it had been five years since I last drove Road Atlanta, so I knew it would be a steep learning curve.

We were quite disappointed after the Thursday test sessions. There was no money in the budget for new tires for the test day, so we ran very old ones. The times showed it. I was about two second slower than Rob Huffmaster. However, all day long, I was only passed by three ITS cars. As such, we were getting mixed signals as to where we would stand for the race.

Things went better on Friday morning. We put in new tires and the time started coming down. I had the opportunity to follow some of the faster ITS drivers during the two qualifying sessions which helped immensely. In the end, we qualified sixth. We then moved up one position when John Williams did not start.

I was optimistic that we could make up several positions during the race. There were clearly places I could go faster given more track time. My plan was to stay with those in front of me for a few laps, learn from them and hopefully still conserve the tires and brakes. The start of the race was very uneventfully. I tucked into fifth place. I could see a Bill Suldouff&#39;s VW Corrado coming up from behind very quickly. I went wide at Turn 7 and he easily motored past on the back straight. Did he ever have the power! I fell in line in sixth at that point. We had a four car ITS draft with John Spillman&#39;s Datsun 240Z leading Suldouff, Kent Thompson&#39;s Mazda RX-7 and me. Rob Huffmaster’s Mazda RX-7 and Kip Van Steenburg’s Mazda Miata were already starting to pull away at about a second a lap. About a third of the way through, I decided it was time to make my move. I passed Thompson into Turn 10A. I then passed Suldouff into Turn 1. That didn’t last long, as he repassed me going into Turn 7. About two thirds of the way through the race, Spillman, who was still running third just in front of Suldouff, tangled with a TCC Vette at Turn 10A. Very unfortunate for him. Thompson got past me as I went around Spillman’s crippled car at Turn 12. At that point, it was Huffmaster, Van Steenburg, Suldouff, Thompson and me. Suldouff, Thompson and I ran in a tight draft for several more laps. I noticed that Suldouff was braking earlier at Turn 10A than he had in the beginning of the race. I assumed his brakes were going away and planned on using that to my advantage. However, I still had to get in front of Thompson just to get to Suldouff. With just over two laps to go, the three of us ran down the backstraight nose to tail. I pulled out to pass Thompson into Turn 10A. Suldouff broke early as expected. I quickly decided I would try to get both of them in one move. It worked and I had third place! I then pulled out three or four car lengths on Suldouff over the next half lap. Then came the now infamous yellow flag situation. As I approached Turn 6, I saw an oil/debris flag. I can not say whether or not there was also a yellow flag. If there was, I missed it. I decided to overtake a lapped RX-7 as we approached Turn 6. I then backed off a bit going into Turn 6, not knowing what I would find when I went around the turn. I’m glad I did! When I rounded the corner, I found the track littered with Corvette parts! Two Corvettes had come together hard. There was no clean path through. I momentarily thought about going by it in the grass, but decided against it. As such, I had only one choice - to go though the mine field! I knew I didn&#39;t want to hit anything with the tires, so I centered on one piece and hit it straight on. I hoped it would just bounce off, but it didn&#39;t. It embedded itself in the splitter. It made a tremendous racket when it hit so I kept a close eye on the gauges for the next lap and a half. Fortunately, I did not puncture the oil cooler or radiator. From there, I just kept on it and finished in third place. I later learned from Suldouff’s video that both he and Thompson passed the lapped RX-7 going into Turn 7 and that Thompson had also passed Suldouff going through Turn 7.

All in all, it was a very satisfying weekend. It made the two months of work leading up to the race worthwhile!

I would like to publicly thank those who helped make this possible. That would include Mazda Motorsports, SpeedSource, Hoosier Tire, my wife Karen and daughters Kellie and Jessica who let me do this, and my crew, Dan Glitz, Rich Riedel, Andrew Zizzo, Bob Just, Charlene Just, Robert Walke, Mark Walke, Mike Nuesser and Mike Hart. Without their help, I could not do this. I would also like to thank John Spillman, Kent Thompson and Bill Suldouff for a great race! I look forward to returning in 2007.

dominojd
11-21-2006, 03:49 AM
OMG !!!! Does that lil egg pull ............sheesshh !!!
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Yeah but it handles like a bag of crap. :D

Greg Amy
11-21-2006, 07:17 AM
Very cool, Joe; thanks for posting that! I&#39;ll point it out again: there were several times that you could have easily used the chrome horn, and you didn&#39;t; honestly, I&#39;m not sure that I could have been as disciplined as you! Super job.

I&#39;ll be uploading my in-car video soon, too, once I get a chance to download it off the camera and break it up into YouTube-size chunks. Unfortunately I&#39;m in the middle of writing THREE term papers (grad school - MBA) so it&#39;s a low priority, but look for it after Thanksgiving...when I&#39;ve got to sit around for five days entertaining family...right about when I get the time to finish up the web page(s)...sheesh... - GA

R2 Racing
11-21-2006, 09:06 AM
OMG !!!! Does that lil egg pull ............sheesshh !!!
[/b]
Seriously, it&#39;s pretty hard to defend against that! :P

I&#39;m trying like hell to get my in car up online but like usual, my camera is continuing to piss me off. Everything works great if you keep it in it&#39;s wierd format and watch it on the crappy software the computer came with. But as soon as you try and put it into a common format for "the people" so they can watch on your average Microsoft Media Player or whatever, it gets all confused. I need to get one of my video editing Mac-nerd friends on it.

JLawton
11-21-2006, 09:12 AM
OMG !!!! Does that lil egg pull ............sheesshh !!!
[/b]


Three letters: S I R !!!!!!!!!!

You listening Andy??

Andy Bettencourt
11-21-2006, 09:28 AM
Three letters: S I R !!!!!!!!!!

You listening Andy?? [/b]

NO!

ddewhurst
11-21-2006, 09:32 AM
Rich, good job with the 3rd.............. :023: Will this start a progression ^ ? How is Mike Hart doing? [email protected]

Have Fun ;)
David

Greg Amy
11-21-2006, 09:41 AM
Hey Lawton: "glass houses"...?

:D

zracre
11-21-2006, 10:31 AM
NO!
[/b]

NO?? Didn&#39;t we talk about this before??? No matter how it happens if a tweener emerges...or at least some lead... ;) Good job Greg! My car had nothing for you guys this year...it fell apart under me until I crashed it in the enduro...oh well I will have a fresh car for next year and make the ARRC my priority!!

Andy Bettencourt
11-21-2006, 11:19 AM
NO?? Didn&#39;t we talk about this before??? No matter how it happens if a tweener emerges...or at least some lead... ;) Good job Greg! My car had nothing for you guys this year...it fell apart under me until I crashed it in the enduro...oh well I will have a fresh car for next year and make the ARRC my priority!! [/b]

Evan - he was joking about the SIR. I hate the SIR in IT.

zracre
11-21-2006, 01:45 PM
I dislike it as well...I was just joking B)

IPRESS
11-21-2006, 02:42 PM
Watching that cool ITA video made me wonder if anybody had any video of it from midpack?

R2 Racing
11-21-2006, 05:02 PM
Three letters: S I R !!!!!!!!!![/b]
HERE HERE!!! :cavallo:

Nah, it just needs shorter straightaways and more twisty stuff, like, oh I don&#39;t know, VIR maybe? :P

dickita15
11-21-2006, 05:52 PM
good point Maybe the arrc ought to run that old runoffs chicane on the back straight :D

heck at lime rock even a good me otter can beat the egg. :rolleyes:

oh ya egg beater, I like that.

Greg Amy
11-21-2006, 06:03 PM
Hmmm, I think we may have a new name for the mosquito...



Nah, it just needs shorter straightaways and more twisty stuff, like, oh I don&#39;t know, VIR maybe? :P
[/b]

Me thinks Mr. Ruck hasn&#39;t seen VIR... (evil grin)... come March he will, though!

MKessler
11-21-2006, 07:30 PM
I’m really late here, but better than never…..

Thanks to:

Greg for taking off the panties and driving the piss outta that car.

Dave and Mel for the beers. Special thanks to Dave for capturing Greg’s Reverse Half-Lindey out of the car.

Crazy Joe for the entertainment, smokes and Monster. I mean, just lookin at him makes me crack up.

Jake for even better entertainment (setup scene) and Monster.

Tim Rogers, Kevin Hart, Brian Cembor: Nissan dudes, very nice guys and excellent crew. Really couldn’t ask for more.

Vinny DiGuisseppe, my body guy, for spiffing up the car at 2am the Monday before the event, forcing me to get some sleep because I was too high from the paint fumes to keep working.

Gene Gardner of Gardner Engineering Lab (Wallingford, CT) for the rush welding and brazing. If you have two pieces of *any* metal and want them attached, find him.

Pete Chillemi of East Coast Machine (North Haven, CT) for most of what I know about making power and use of the machines. Pete specializes in American V8 restricted/rules engines. Trying to get him to start rippin up AS……

Atlanta Region for the smooth event. Things actually happened *ahead* of schedule. Tech only took a long time cuz I was low on Monster….

Andy Bettencourt for calling the NX “cute”. Pretty much the main motivation I had to make the car fast. :D Now who’s got the cute car?

Finally, thank you Monster energy drink inventor guy :figo: …..You have given a fat, chain-smoking, 30-something year old guy the energy of a fat, chain-smoking 20-something year old guy!

Matt

BTW-We don&#39;t need no stinking SIR....taking brib…err…donations (cases of Monster work well) for slowing the NX down……

Jeremy Billiel
11-21-2006, 08:03 PM
I’m really late here, but better than never…..

Thanks to:

Greg for taking off the panties and driving the piss outta that car.

Dave and Mel for the beers. Special thanks to Dave for capturing Greg’s Reverse Half-Lindey out of the car.

Crazy Joe for the entertainment, smokes and Monster. I mean, just lookin at him makes me crack up.

Jake for even better entertainment (setup scene) and Monster.

Tim Rogers, Kevin Hart, Brian Cembor: Nissan dudes, very nice guys and excellent crew. Really couldn’t ask for more.

Vinny DiGuisseppe, my body guy, for spiffing up the car at 2am the Monday before the event, forcing me to get some sleep because I was too high from the paint fumes to keep working.

Gene Gardner of Gardner Engineering Lab (Wallingford, CT) for the rush welding and brazing. If you have two pieces of *any* metal and want them attached, find him.

Pete Chillemi of East Coast Machine (North Haven, CT) for most of what I know about making power and use of the machines. Pete specializes in American V8 restricted/rules engines. Trying to get him to start rippin up AS……

Atlanta Region for the smooth event. Things actually happened *ahead* of schedule. Tech only took a long time cuz I was low on Monster….

Andy Bettencourt for calling the NX “cute”. Pretty much the main motivation I had to make the car fast. :D Now who’s got the cute car?

Finally, thank you Monster energy drink inventor guy :figo: …..You have given a fat, chain-smoking, 30-something year old guy the energy of a fat, chain-smoking 20-something year old guy!

Matt

BTW-We don&#39;t need no stinking SIR....taking brib…err…donations (cases of Monster work well) for slowing the NX down……
[/b]

Hey there he is!!! Matt has spoken!

gran racing
11-21-2006, 08:33 PM
Damn I&#39;m laughing my ass off. It&#39;s kinda funny timing Matt, I went into my garage tonight and thought, darn, this Prelude is cute!

Andy Bettencourt
11-21-2006, 09:33 PM
Andy Bettencourt for calling the NX "cute". Pretty much the main motivation I had to make the car fast. :D Now who&#39;s got the cute car?

[/b]

Thanks to Dick:

My car ain&#39;t cute, when inside the Connecticut state borders, its an EGG-BEATER. Nice.

Unfortunatly, when it gets to RA, it&#39;s SCRAMBLED EGGS.

:)

AB

R2 Racing
11-21-2006, 11:48 PM
Me thinks Mr. Ruck hasn&#39;t seen VIR... (evil grin)... come March he will, though!
[/b]
True, true. Never been there.


Muresan, if you&#39;re reading this, send me VIR in-car! Do it for the Integra&#39;s! :eclipsee_steering:

Butch Kummer
11-22-2006, 10:28 AM
VIR is what Road Atlanta USED to be, prior to the removal of the Dip. Recalls a time when men were men and the sheep were scared... :D

Greg Amy
11-22-2006, 10:36 AM
Hey, Kevin, Butch is Right There.

I&#39;ll send you a DVD of the track from inside Kirk&#39;s killer Golf, so you can see what&#39;ll look like from inside one of those slow Acuras...you know, so you can get your timing and all that...

:P

Hell, I&#39;ll even send you a DVD of in-car from the 1991 Runoffs so you can wonder in amazement. JoeD was over this past weekend and we watched it; his response was precious... :o

lateapex911
11-22-2006, 11:34 AM
I like Road Atlanta a lot. It has lots of places where you are doing two things at once, turning and dropping, turning and rising, and so on. Plus, it&#39;s got some sections that need a special bit of attention, and some blind corners too. But theres really nothing scary about it.

Now the old track.......THAT looks like it could scare you the first few laps!





Finally, thank you Monster energy drink inventor guy :figo: …..You have given a fat, chain-smoking, 30-something year old guy the energy of a fat, chain-smoking 20-something year old guy!

Matt

BTW-We don&#39;t need no stinking SIR....taking brib…err…donations (cases of Monster work well) for slowing the NX down……
[/b]


Now THAT is some funny chit!

Matt, the first step is admitting there is a problem....you&#39;re almost there....lets work on it a bit more!

(And folks......don&#39;t be like me and go to get him some Monster and then discover there are THREE varieties! Uh oh! Now what??? He likes the one thats in the red and black cans...and yes, he will probably do more for a can of Monster than he would for the equivilent amount of cash....)

MKessler
11-22-2006, 11:51 AM
Thanks to Dick:

My car ain&#39;t cute, when inside the Connecticut state borders, its an EGG-BEATER. Nice.


AB
[/b]

Yeah, and a &#39;Teg Beater too....and a CRX Beater, and a 240 Beater and a......





Matt, the first step is admitting there is a problem....you&#39;re almost there....lets work on it a bit more!

[/b]

The only problem I got is the price!! (ssfft, opens can)

Gonna try cooking it down and making little rocks.... :119:

Hracer
11-22-2006, 11:45 PM
Muresan, if you&#39;re reading this, send me VIR in-car! Do it for the Integra&#39;s! :eclipsee_steering:
[/b]
Here you go, for the integras! Vids are from March this year, when I thought there was a chance the cute red egg might have made it out. An Integra won that race and it&#39;s all on you now Kevin to stop the egg. :)
clear track taken from the race (http://uncutvideo.aol.com/search/relevant/2283874b5f5b5cd57114ee401d5a88da?value=VIR1&index=0)
from qualifying (http://uncutvideo.aol.com/search/relevant/11f4b630580210f1cf1f566e3cf6a00d?value=vir2&index=0)
start (http://uncutvideo.aol.com/search/relevant/79291c51c0cfd6591ddc03bf5046ca9c?value=vir%20start&index=0)

Greg Amy
11-23-2006, 04:08 PM
ARRC in-car videos are up...

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=GregAmy

88YB1
11-23-2006, 07:53 PM
Greg, Thanks for posting the video. Watching a winning car confirmed the areas in which I thought I was giving up time. This was my rookie year. The ARRC was my sixth race. My line wasn&#39;t perfect, I blew several turn in points. and I missed several apexes. Over all I have the basics. Now I just need to hone the skill. Seat time Seat time Seat time. UnfortunatlyI lost a cylinder and had to withdraw in lap ten. Still it was a fantastic weekend.
Congratulation on a well deserved win. :happy204:

Hope to see you at ARTRC 2007

Chuck
ITA Pontiac Fiero #34

Greg Amy
11-24-2006, 08:25 AM
Thanks, Chuck, I appreciate the comments.

Something to keep in mind: each year I make a point of walking the track either Wednesday or Thursday night to refamiliarize myself (I only run there once a year). I appreciate company; anyone is welcome to walk along and I&#39;ll point out the details I&#39;ve learned over the years... - GA

Andy Bettencourt
11-24-2006, 08:44 AM
Doc Bro gets to hold the flag!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

:D

tom91ita
11-24-2006, 09:52 AM
ARRC in-car videos are up...

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=GregAmy
[/b]

Greg,

Thanks for the posting these up. I do have a couple of questions:

1. What happened to the red car in front of you at about the 4:40 mark in tape 2? it looked like an odd spot to go off?
2. What happened to the rear of your car at about 1:20 in tape 3? Was there debris / oil on track?

thanks,

Greg Amy
11-24-2006, 10:35 AM
Andy - I was surprised, and pleased, to look over and see Rob in the car for the post-race, so I handed him the flag. He told me he wanted to see the track, and I hear he knocked over a couple of people trying to get in the car (grin). JoeD says the backpack is gay, though.

Tom, the red MR-2 is my buddy JD from Tennessee (Jim Daniels - no, not that one). He said he didn&#39; think the car was turning in like he&#39;d like, so he purposefully drove off the track so he wouldn&#39;t hold us up(!). We had a conversation later about it, as it really wasn&#39;t the right thing to do; if you watch my head in the mirror you&#39;ll see that I actually had to drive WAY offline and turn to watch him to make sure he wasn&#39;t coming back across, then I ended up high-centering the car on the right hand berm going into T5 (listen closely and you can hear the "gritch".)

Contrast that to the RX-7 in the lap immediately prior.

As for the sideways action in T10, best I can figure there must have been some dirt at the edge of the track at turn-in; plus, I also notice that I had down-shifted just a tad bit sooner, causing higher revs. I&#39;m guessing the combination of stuff on the track plus just *that* much more weight transfer caused the rear end to come around. I was extremely fortunate to be pointing the right way to gather it back up; I nailed the throttle and unwound the steering wheel and squirted outta there... - GA

RSTPerformance
11-24-2006, 12:55 PM
nice slide greg :)

Raymond

tom91ita
11-24-2006, 01:03 PM
so he purposefully drove off the track so he wouldn&#39;t hold us up(!)[/b]

that was what it looked like in the tape. but i thought maybe with your monster motor that you had pulled the air off his rear deck and made him aero loose or had sucked the air out of his tires.

the question of you getting sideways was as much because it was an otherwise flawless drive.

congrats again and thanks for sharing the line, etc.

tom, who has marked ARRC 2007 on his calendar.

lateapex911
11-24-2006, 02:56 PM
Greg, honestly, there were some boring laps there...;) Try not to lead so much and the tapes will be more entertaining. ...

Yea, I have never seen a guy go off track before to get out of the way! But the one thing I want to know about was, when you entered the pits after the checkered flag lap, what happened as you made the last turn, and the car shakes, and somebody says, "Thats gonna leave a mark"??

(And man, am I glad I never saw you in the race...the closing speed you had on those IT-7 cars ...jeeez...that would have made me DEpressed, LOL)

dickita15
11-24-2006, 03:52 PM
Greg, honestly, there were some boring laps there...;) Try not to lead so much and the tapes will be more entertaining. ...


[/b]
or at least turn the camera around

R2 Racing
11-24-2006, 04:10 PM
1. What happened to the red car in front of you at about the 4:40 mark in tape 2? it looked like an odd spot to go off?[/b]
I laughed when Jim did that because I did the exact same thing on lap four or so. Greg, Joey, and I were so close nose to tail that when we turned in to the right for the start of the esses, I was so close up on Joey that I couldn&#39;t see my turn in point. So I was late and thought to myself "Crap, I&#39;ve got to lift in the marbles (which is a bad idea) and I&#39;ll probably still straddle that next curb on the left and kill those two cones.........or I could just keep my foot down and drive it through the grass! WOOHOO!" I chose door number two! I mean come on, it&#39;s the ARRC!

The people up on the turn 5 hill liked it, and I&#39;m just here to put on a show for the fans. B)

Greg Amy
11-24-2006, 06:57 PM
...the car shakes, and somebody says, "Thats gonna leave a mark"??
[/b]

Uh, yeah. That. Well, I was otherwise-distracted taking my helmet off, and it seems there&#39;s this rather large pothole on the outside edge of the pit entrance lane...fortunately, the most generous Wheels America is supplying four wheel repairs for the win...!

awdbandito
11-25-2006, 01:15 AM
Tom, the red MR-2 is my buddy JD from Tennessee (Jim Daniels - no, not that one). He said he didn&#39; think the car was turning in like he&#39;d like, so he purposefully drove off the track so he wouldn&#39;t hold us up(!). We had a conversation later about it, as it really wasn&#39;t the right thing to do; [/b]



That was me. I turned in late and the car just didn&#39;t feel stable(which I have now found was my steering rack slipping) and I was afraid of causing a bad mishap with the leader lapping me(which would not have been good, especially since this was my 3rd race overall). I decided to just put it through the grass vs spinning or loosing it and making contact with someone. Race and learn.

J.D. Daniels ( no, not Jim, or any relation to the SM guy ;) )

eho
11-26-2006, 01:28 AM
...

Edwin Ho
11-26-2006, 01:34 AM
I laughed when Jim did that because I did the exact same thing on lap four or so.[/b]

You mean this? :blink:

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0472_640x480.jpg

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0473_640x480.jpg

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0474_640x480.jpg

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0475_640x480.jpg

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0476_640x480.jpg

http://www.ehmotorsports.org/images/2006ARRC/EAH_20061111_0477_640x480.jpg

Ed.

Racerlinn
11-26-2006, 05:22 PM
LOL!
Kevin, you a bad boy.....
:happy204:

tom91ita
11-26-2006, 06:13 PM
ha ha! i was lol so hard, my wife came to see what i was watching. ed, great shots! thanks for sharing!

Greg Amy
11-26-2006, 06:47 PM
YEEEEEE-HAW!

R2 Racing
11-26-2006, 10:11 PM
AWESOOOOOOOME! Ed, you&#39;re my freaking hero for capturing that! :cavallo:

Now do you see why I said this?


I was late and thought to myself "Crap, I&#39;ve got to lift in the marbles (which is a bad idea) and I&#39;ll probably still straddle that next curb on the left and kill those two cones.........or I could just keep my foot down and drive it through the grass! WOOHOO!"[/b]

Greg Amy
12-04-2006, 01:48 PM
Gordon Jolley has finally posted his pics online...

http://gordon.smugmug.com/2006%20Events-SCCA/259496