ARRC Qualifying...

[Andy Bettencourt]

Just heard that the ITA provisional pole is 1:42.X!!!! WOW!!!! Anybody hooked into someone there??? Would love to hear about all the classes. HEre are the track records for reference...

ITS Chet Wittel 1:40.280 BMW 325 2004 ARRC
ITA Anthony Serra 1:43.368 Acura Integra 2004 ARRC
ITB Randy Pobst 1:47.916 Honda Accord 2001 ARRC
ITC William Perry 1:51.063 Honda CRX 2004 ARRC

[Andy Bettencourt]

Just heard from Nick that Chet and Huffmaster BOTH went 1:39.1 !!!!!!!!! Round 2 on pre-grid now. 3-7 about 2 seconds back...

Holy shizzle!!!!

AB

[bobpink]

Geez, you guys are quick!

Due to some T&S glitches with the new system being used this year, provisional and official results could take a while to post.

[mgreene87]

ITA Provisional from memory:

1) Colin Botha 1:42.4
2) Alex Muresan 1:42.5
3) Moser 1:42.7 - don't remember which one. sorry
4) Greg Amy1:42.7
5) Michael Greene (Me :D ) 1:43.5

Once again this is from memory. I just glanced at the results after the second qualifying before I left the track, but is was the combined results from the first and second session. I could be off somewhere so don't hold my feet to the fire, but the times are pretty accurate for the first five qualifiers.

[RSTPerformance]

Nice job Greg!!! Glad to see something new upfront :)

Also in the ITB ranks;

1)Justin Poole 1.48.358 87 Honda Accord
Justin, you had to get a Honda... ;) I like the BMW better, but my $$$ is still on you with the Honda this year and the win.

2) Chris Winkle 1.49.057 91 VW Golf

3) Derek Lugar 1.49.262 91 VW Golf
Defending champ, I think he has it if Justin has any issues!!!

4) Dan Keane 1.49.310 90 VW Golf

5)Trever Degioanni 1.49.323 88 Honda Accord

6) Peter keane 1.49.325 88 Honda Accord
My brothers instructor is always impressing me!!! Glad your back in the Honda!!! Go get em!!!

7) Sam Moore 1.49.384 72 Volvo
Keeping the historics alive!!! I love it!!!

8) Dave Gran 1.49.899 91 Honda Prelude
Hometown Favorite!!! I am chearing for you!!!...


All in all what a tight field, Honda, VW, and Volvo fighting for the title :)!!!



Raymond "wish we made it :(" Blethen

[pfcs49]

where's Chris Albin?

[bobpink]

Originally posted by Andy Bettencourt@Nov 11 2005, 07:51 PM
Just heard from Nick that Chet and Huffmaster BOTH went 1:39.1 !!!!!!!!!


This is flying considering that the lap record for E Production is 1:37 flat done by Grayson Upchurch, Jr. in a very fast car. I can remember when 1:39 was fast with the layout of the old Road Atlanta that included the infamous "dip".

[m glassburner]

Chris appears to have had problems in the first session....it looks like he's 13th :(

[Bill Miller]

Originally posted by mgreene87@Nov 11 2005, 07:22 PM
ITA Provisional from memory:

1) Colin Botha 1:42.4
2) Alex Muresan 1:42.5
3) Moser 1:42.7 - don't remember which one. sorry
4) Greg Amy1:42.7
5) Michael Greene (Me :D ) 1:43.5

Once again this is from memory. I just glanced at the results after the second qualifying before I left the track, but is was the combined results from the first and second session. I could be off somewhere so don't hold my feet to the fire, but the times are pretty accurate for the first five qualifiers.

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WOW! The top four are over a half second under Serra's record??? :blink:

Should make for a great race. Oh yeah, congrats Greg!! :D Way to go bud! :023:

[Jake]

Thanks for the updates!!! Keep 'em coming. Go DAVE!!!! Watch out, he's still just learning the track.

Go Greg! Faster than Serra - go get 'em!!

Jake "Wish I was There" Fisher

[Andy Bettencourt]

Top 5 in ITC are under the track record. Reynolds went 1:49.421 and Rebstock went 1:49.606. Old record was 1:51.063 from last year!!!

[nasa ser]

Go greg!!!!!!!! let's here it for the ol' Nx2000...betcha he's glad he got the car back together now! :happy204: :happy204:

[Joe Harlan]

Hey for those of us not from the east coast any chance we could get car types with time results?

Thanks
Joe

[Speed Raycer]

Guys, you're forgetting that this is the IT.com board. The leaders are all under track records in qualifying.... therefore they are all cheating!!!! :D

Good job everyone!!!

I thought I heard that Stretch was going to run in ITA???

[GKR_17]

Don't forget that turn 10 was reconfigured this year, and is faster than last before.

Grafton

[gsbaker]

Originally posted by nasa ser@Nov 11 2005, 11:34 PM
Go greg!!!!!!!! let's here it for the ol' Nx2000...betcha he's glad he got the car back together now! :happy204: :happy204:

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Last I saw Greg he was grinning ear-to-ear. :D

Everyone seems to be faster than last year, so there is lots of grinning going on.

[ddewhurst]

***The leaders are all under track records in qualifying.... therefore they are all cheating!!!!***

Come on Scott, that comment normally comes from the upper right coast. :D :D

Joe, Botha & Moser (father & son) are from the CenDiv & race Hondas last time I saw them race. They have raced their in the past & finished well. & they don't cheat. ;)

The best thing I see with the top times as shown is that the times are close together as times should be for a championship race. :happy204:

[Tom Blaney]

Originally posted by gsbaker@Nov 12 2005, 08:56 AM
Last I saw Greg he was grinning ear-to-ear. :D

Everyone seems to be faster than last year, so there is lots of grinning going on.

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:bash_1_:

Come on Guys, if Turn 10 is reconfigued and it is faster than last year, being under Anthony's track record is to be expected. All three of those guys are fast (although I don't think Botha has any staying power) but give Anthony his due...

[Doc Bro]

I want more info!!!!

This is exciting!!!!!!

Good Luck Greg and Dave!!!! Man, it must have been a good ride down for those guys.....did they have Tony Robbins in the van?

Rob

[m glassburner]

I feel like a crack addict :119: I need another timing and scoring fix !!! A little help !!! :birra:

[greendot]

Originally posted by GKR_17@Nov 12 2005, 05:11 AM
Don't forget that turn 10 was reconfigured this year, and is faster than last before.

Grafton

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OHH MAAANNN :119:

How was it changed?? I was registered an got sick on departure day so I really sick now, missing the great weather and racing.

Tell me about the revised turn 10 please!!!

[Joe Harlan]

Originally posted by greendot@Nov 12 2005, 10:37 AM
Tell me about the revised turn 10 please!!!

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Yes please when was it redone and how much do you think it is faster?

[Banzai240]

Originally posted by m glassburner@Nov 12 2005, 03:26 PM
I feel like a crack addict :119: I need another timing and scoring fix !!! A little help !!! :birra:

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Guys... PLEASE post the car model/type with the quoted times... Those of us out West don't always know who's in what...

Thanks for the updates...

[m glassburner]

ARRC 's website has those car types and drivers you are looking for...it's under entry list... :023:

[GKR_17]

Originally posted by Joe Harlan@Nov 12 2005, 06:12 PM
Yes please when was it redone and how much do you think it is faster?

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As I recall, it was changed over the winter before the 2005 season. The apex for 10a was expanded, and allows for an easier line through 10b. I doubt it's worth a full second, but woud easily believe a few tenths. I also hear second hand that Hoosier had some new stuff out, and should recieve some credit for these record times as well.

Grafton

[greendot]

Originally posted by GKR_17@Nov 13 2005, 02:12 AM
I also hear second hand that Hoosier had some new stuff out, and should recieve some credit for these record times as well.

Grafton

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Hoosier did announce a recontoured R3S05 tire that promised to not wear the shoulders so quickly. It's on their website. Could have helped by keeping the tread surface in better contact.

[OTLimit]

Originally posted by m glassburner@Nov 11 2005, 06:16 PM
Chris appears to have had problems in the first session....it looks like he's 13th :(

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The car had teething problems during both of the sprint race qualifying sessions, but managed to put down a good time for the Pro-IT, and then go on to win it. After that, the problem seemed to be solved. Car ran great for the sprint race; just couldn't overcome the combined B/C grouping and starting 21st overall. :(

[R2 Racing]

In response to two things:
1. 10a and 10b didn't seem any different to me from last year. The cars were just flat out hauling, that's it. I think acrossed the board this year, people were just busting their ass. From Monday after last years ARRC, people immediately started talking about "wait until next year" when it came to ITA and ITC. I know I was, and I put an absurd amount of work into my car in the next 12 months to take 1.5 seconds off of my fastest lap time.

2. If anyone was running on S05's, they didn't seem to be head and shoulders above the S04's.

[Catch22]

I qualified under the ITC track record and started 5th.
Wow.

I'd love to say "Wait til next year" but my car didn't make it through the enduro.
RIP #22.

[Greg Amy]

Originally posted by R2 Racing@Nov 14 2005, 04:38 PM
10a and 10b didn't seem any different to me from last year.
Ditto, re:2003. I ran 45's in ITS in '03, and saw the same folks running a second faster in '04. I figured at the time I had another couple of seconds left in driver and car prep.

Like Kevin said, folks were just bustin' ass this year. Can't wait to see what next year looks like...!


If anyone was running on S05's, they didn't seem to be head and shoulders above the S04's.

And, in fact, I spoke to an ITA competitor that switched back to S04s...

[Joe Moser]

Originally posted by GregAmy@Nov 14 2005, 03:09 PM
Ditto, re:2003. I ran 45's in ITS in '03, and saw the same folks running a second faster in '04. I figured at the time I had another couple of seconds left in driver and car prep.

Like Kevin said, folks were just bustin' ass this year. Can't wait to see what next year looks like...!
And, in fact, I spoke to an ITA competitor that switched back to S04s...

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I would give 10a and 10b another .2 seconds from last year, tops... If you push it through 10a, you still end up on the outside rumble strips in 10b. We did a TON of development (correction, my dad did a TON) this year. We were about 1.5 seconds faster at Mid-Ohio in July, and 1.5 seconds faster at Road Atlanta during the ARRC. The field was much much faster than I anticipated. I thought Serra would be in the low to mid 1:42's in his new Integra, so we were pushing for a 1.5 second improvement. Didn't know that there would be several people running those times!

RE: Hoosier S05's. We ran with the new tires, and the durability is much better than the SO4's. They continue to do a great job developing the tires every year. I'm not sure about the grip performance improvement. We ran ALL day on Thursday with 1 set of tires, and we really abuse those things!!

Joe Moser

[Edwin Ho]

Originally posted by GKR_17@Nov 12 2005, 05:11 AM
Don't forget that turn 10 was reconfigured this year, and is faster than last before.

From what I could see, it was just resurfaced. I was glad to see it though. The bump that used to be there caught me out last year resulting in a spin on the first lap!

Ed.

[Hracer]

Originally posted by Joe Moser@Nov 15 2005, 02:27 AM
RE: Hoosier S05's. We ran with the new tires, and the durability is much better than the SO4's.
To add to how good the S05s last, we used the same set of tires we ran in one qualifying session + the sprint race for the entire 3 hour enduro on Sunday and the tires still look like they have a lot of tread left. Are these things not made out of rubber?

Regarding T10, the inside is resurfaced. You can still take pretty much the same line as in the past, but it is a lot easier on the car when doing so.

[R2 Racing]

Originally posted by Hracer@Nov 15 2005, 02:03 AM
To add to how good the S05s last, we used the same set of tires we ran in one qualifying session + the sprint race for the entire 3 hour enduro on Sunday and the tires still look like they have a lot of tread left. Are these things not made out of rubber?

Are you serious? Holy crap! That's awfully impressive. I have to say though, it appeared to me that Road Atlanta was quite easy on tires (if you get your camber set right).