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manny
05-21-2003, 05:20 PM
just read it in the new fast tracks.could it be possible that the COMP BOD is thinking of adding the 79-93 4 cyl mustang to the list of the EP class?

joeg
05-21-2003, 05:57 PM
Seems a good fit. Hope you can go "Full" as opposed to "Limited" with it.

SilverHorseRacing
05-21-2003, 08:13 PM
Oh... the amount of money I could throw at that project.... Yikes.

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Racescort
05-22-2003, 07:35 AM
Man.... I wish I had any money at all to throw at anything!

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Doug
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Racescort
05-22-2003, 08:04 AM
I learned a good lesson the first race weekend. This was the first time I've had camber plates on the Escort. I ran the car, checked the temps., made an adjustment to the camber(witch by the way was unbelievabley better than last year and not being able to adjust. It was so much better)I knew I needed to readjust the toe after. The only problem is I didn't realize just how important it was to get the suspension settled fully before hand.So when I adjusted it I didnt really have it right. My diff. is welded and when I moved the car to set the toe it already had toe-in from adj. the camber. With the diff. welded on an FWD car it was making the suspension creep upward from the toe being in, loosing my camber and chunking the outside edge of the tire.
Joeg, the rear suspension set-up That you and Jon gave me worked excellent! I have 550 lbs. springs in back and they were just right. I don't think I will even need a swaybar. It made the car very nutral. It would rotate real nice and then become nice and nutral and even.
I can tell that once I get down the camber and toe thing right, its going to be real good.
I Qual. mid pack(not used to the car yet) and ended up starting right behind a Volvo. I was right on his butt, keeping up real well for a few laps. Thats when my camber would go away,heated up my outside edge and couldnt keep the same pace afterwhile.
Anyway.........it was encouraging!

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Doug
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tderonne
05-22-2003, 08:36 AM
I was the official requestor on the EP/FP request. Thought we laid out a pretty good case for an EP full prep car, really just an update of the EP 2.3 Pinto, and a limited prep FP car. The FP car would be a great fit from a performance standpoint. You saw the Comp Board's response. I contend a Mustang is no bigger (ok, an inch) or heavier (comp board sets weights) than an FP BMW 320. Heck, its barely bigger than a GP Jetta.

So it's sort of back to the drawing board for me. If they'd do a EP limited prep car, I'd build one, and hope for a move to F once it's built.

(On that note. Anyone know someone who makes stock appearing Mustang front fenders in glass? I found US Body www.usbody.com/79-93%20mustang.htm (http://www.usbody.com/79-93%20mustang.htm) in Florida, they make a whole GT front clip, a little pricey, but I'd bet they could pull just the fenders out of their mold.)

If the Comp Board heard from folks like you that would consider building such a car, it wouldn't be a bad thing, [email protected], include your member number to make it an official letter.



[This message has been edited by tderonne (edited May 22, 2003).]

joeg
05-22-2003, 10:10 AM
Doug--Your sliders in the camber plates should not move--regardless of the type of diff you may have.

What are you using for the plate setup?

Cheers.

SilverHorseRacing
05-22-2003, 09:00 PM
I forget who I saw making the FG fenders, but they are being produced. Problem is, to make them anywhere near strong enough to support anything more than a mosquito impact, they end up weighing almost as much as stock fenders. You might want to research the weight savings before spending the green on them. Just a thought.

tderonne
05-22-2003, 09:28 PM
Absolutely. Being that the stock fender is just the sheet metal that you can see, no interal brackets or braces, the weight savings may be minimal.

But, if I do one, I don't want there to be any excuses. We've done quite a bit of carbon fiber bodywork at work. If that's what it takes, I won't rule it out.

Rear fenders may be the place to save some weight, but they may be real hard to find. Anyone doing whole bodies that could do just the rear fenders? Then again, that may actually be a pretty simple mold. I don't have a '79 - '93 whole body around to look at though.

Dick Elliott
06-13-2003, 10:13 PM
Go to http://www.up22.com for fiberglass parts. Great work at a good price. Freight will eat you up though.