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itbescort
06-19-2002, 12:34 PM
Just wondering if there was ever such a thing. It sure would be easier to make a baffle pan with steel.
Thanks
Tim

joeg
06-19-2002, 05:26 PM
You could probably use the pans off the 1983.5 and on up motors, but the pan bolt holes would need enlarging and you may need the external steel braces which helped tie the tranny to the motor. I think on the aluminum pans, the "bracing" is part of the structure.

Racescort
06-20-2002, 09:28 AM
joeg

Did the steel pans have windage trays built in from the factory?

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joeg
06-20-2002, 01:25 PM
The 1981 to 83.5 models have a very nice baffling system in their pans. The oil pick-up tubes are different in the later models (as are the oil pumps). Your sumps are wide-open (not good) and I would run an accusump for piece of mind.

A windage tray from the Contour ZTec is a bolt on to all of the CVH blocks(same main cap spacing)but you will need the extended stud main cap bolts from the UK.

I sold Diane some of those a few month's ago.

Racescort
06-21-2002, 05:09 PM
MAN! You are one knowledgable guy! So if I get a windage tray from a Contour ZTech and the studs , I wouldn't have to worry about my open sump?
Also what year is the Contour?

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joeg
06-21-2002, 06:14 PM
Doug--Baffling and windage are two completely different aspects of oil control. There is also a third--the scrapper.

You baffle the pan to keep the oil pick-up tube submerged and pumping oil in a high g-force condition (rather than letting it pump air if it is allowed to get uncovered).

Windage trays help keep oil from the sump from getting "roped" around the crank and promoting proper return for oil to the sump. "Roping" causes parasitic hp losses (drag).

A scrapper is even a better anti-roping device as it keeps oil in the pan rather than getting on the external poprtions of the crank. Once again, this cuts down on parasitic HP losses.

The only substitute for a pan baffle is an accusump. A windage tray is not going to stop the pick-up tube from sucking air in a hi-G turn. Oil will move away from the pick-up in such conditions if it is not blocked by the baffling.

Some motorheads would also use a swinging pick-up tube to accomplish the same feat. That's a tough engineering and fabrication task, however.

If I recall, you have a cast aluminum sump pan withou baffling. Why not give SCCA Enterprises (or Rousch Racing) a call and find out what they do to the sumps in the Spec Racer Ford motors....

Cheers.

Racescort
06-22-2002, 07:51 AM
Wow! Good info. I just continously keep learning more all the time. Maybe I'll try calling Rousch and see what they say. Thanks

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Doug
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