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benspeed
03-15-2004, 07:14 PM
OK Folks - I've heard some pretty interesting ways to quiet up a 2nd gen RX7. I've got a 3" pipe off my current muffler. Does anybody have a suggestion to get the sound from 102 db to 89 db?

Proven suggestions appreciated!

Cheers,

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BenSpeed
#33 ITS RX7
BigSpeed Racing
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C. Ludwig
03-15-2004, 10:33 PM
None good. We used a supertrapp. Nice and quiet but absolutely killed the power.

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Chris Ludwig
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Silkworm
03-16-2004, 02:01 PM
Ditto.. Fortunately my race organization doesn't go to laguna so I don't have to mess with this to get max power, but for track days I add a 90* elbow with a supertrapp welded to it.

PaulC

benracin
03-16-2004, 03:09 PM
Shove some steel wool in it? Just an idea.

Dick Elliott
03-16-2004, 07:31 PM
Step one is put the muffler under the car with a 90 deg elbow pointed down before the rear end. Step two is wear ear plugs. The closer the elbow is to the ground, the less noise you send out to prying ears.Try it / You'll like it. Cheap fix too.

Quickshoe
03-16-2004, 09:19 PM
Benspeed,

If you are talking about reducing the sound pressure from 103 to 89 when measured from the same distance...good luck!! If I remember correctly a 6db reduction is half as loud. 103-97 is half as loud. 97-91 is half as loud again. You are talking about less than 1/4 as loud.

Maybe an acoustic engineer can put his/her $.02 in. But I also believe that certain frequencies travel better than others. Weather is also a factor.

I ran with a club that had absolutely no noise limits at all the tracks we raced at EXCEPT Laguna, which for us, used to be 92. It was lowered to 90 this year and I don't know of any Rx7's who are going.

Laguna measures it on driver's right approx, 100' from the center of the track, halfway up the hill between T5 and T6. It was very difficult to get the Rx7's down to 92.

Non Laguna set-up was the same as yours.

We then added a 3" in - 5" disc only series supertrap at the end of a 45 degree turn out (with the mud shield***). We went out with 8 discs and got black flagged for 92 db and change. 8 discs had worked in years prior. Rather than remove a couple of discs and get black flagged again (ending our weekend) we put 4 discs and asked for a courtesy check. This put us between 90-91db and absolutely killed our top end. We decided to try 6 discs and got our last courtesy check...we were in the 91's and gained about 400 rpm over the 4 disc setup. Still about 1000rpm shy of our normal setup.

According to the folks at Supertrap 14 discs is approximately equal to no supertrap.

Our testing found that each disc removed cost us between 100-200 rpms of top end and seemed to move our bottom end down about the same amount. Adjust your shift points accordingly and maybe it won't cost you much time.

We experimented with a RadioShack meter on a tripod at home and found that a 45* out and 45* down was the best set up.

A 90 out meant that the sound deflected off the ground then the hill and straight back to the meter. We guessed that the 45 would mean that by the time we were at the angle where the sound would deflect off the hill and to the meter we would be farther up the hill and therefore, farther from the meter.

We witnessed many other contraptions that seemed to work in other cars. Coffee cans packed with steel wool and holes punched in the side away from the meter.

At 90 db you need to start thinking about intake noise as well. We had some "quiet" turbo cars have their blow off valve thing exceed the limit.

*** Supertrap exhaust discs divert the sound (and heat http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/smile.gif ) outwards and back towards the exhaust pipe. The mud shield deflects the sound and heat back out the rear of the car.

Good luck. I hope wherever you are racing they measure it farther than 100' away OR at less than max rpm under zero load.

benspeed
03-16-2004, 10:00 PM
Thanks for the suggestions folks - I remember the factoring about sound reduction being a much tougher ratio than one would think.

I'm going to try the supertrap approach and go with 8 disks and see what happens. I'll fiddle around and if that's not working, it's the end of track days at LimeRock unless I run the street car (Boxster).

No problems at Pocono though!

Cheers,




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BenSpeed
#33 ITS RX7
BigSpeed Racing
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NNJR