Brake Rotors

[Speed Raycer]

Anyone have a source and price for front and rear rotors that you'd like to share?

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[Marcus Miller]

At the risk of you guys buying out my source. . . http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/smile.gif

http://www.brake-parts.com/brake_rotor-maz...1985-parts.html (http://www.brake-parts.com/brake_rotor-mazda-rx7_001-1985-parts.html)

Marcus

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[ddewhurst]

Marcus, Scott or anyone else I have a question with reference to Brembo brake rotors. Marcus, not from your source. The brake rotors arive in a Brembo box. Great, good first step. No place on the rotors I received was there any markings that they were manufactured by Brembo. I was of the impression their stuff was manufactured in Italy. Stamped on the O. D. of the flange where the wheel mounts it is "Japan" & a part number. Not the same part number that Brembo shows in their catlog or that is on the box. Is that the same info you guys have found ?

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David

[ddewhurst]

Brembo inquiry follow up:

I spoke with a person at Brembo about the brake rotor stamped with a "part number" & stamped "Japan" shiped in a Brembo box & he stated that the rotor IS NOT a Brembo rotor.

The correct number that is on the Brembo box is the same number as in the Brembo catalog # 25361. The Brembo person also told me that if the # 25361 was not on the brake rotor there would be a worldwide number 09-5630.10 on the brembo brake rotor. This number is for a 1st gen 1985 Mazda RX-7.

I questioned if they weren't concerned about someone selling something other than Brembo rotors in Brembo boxs & the response was. We would need at least one full time person to check out all the non Brembo rotors sold in Brembo boxs. Internet & other places. ;(

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David

ps: Marcus, what numbers are on your Brembo rotors ?



[This message has been edited by ddewhurst (edited January 20, 2004).]

[rgrunenw]

This might explain why my "Brembo" front's cracked after three races. Thanks for the tip!

[ITSRX7]

A lot of times someone like Brembo will have a seperate 'line' of rotors (lower than their normal quality but still up to OEM spec) that they sell as OEM equivilant in different packaging. Seems as if they may have skipped the packaging part.

AB

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[Marcus Miller]

That's a good question, I never really looked at them. The car (with them on it), as well as the spares are a couple hours from me. I'll see if I can get my crew to take a look at them. . .

Marcus

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[ddewhurst]

Marcus, I (we) look forward to your investigation of your Brenbo numbers.

To all, the Brembo guy said they sell driect to The Tire Rack. I will check with Tire Rack after Marcus looks at his rotor numbers.
The supplier Marcus pointed out is $51 each with free shiping & Tire rack is $59 plus shiping.

Anyone else have Brembo information ?

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David

[Marcus Miller]

On the hub face, there are four detents around the stud holes. One has an '11' written in it, one has a '24' and one has 'min th 17mm'. The other is blank.
There are no other distinctive markings on the rotor. I'll have pictures up later tonight. . .
The box red with Brembo markings has part number FA54-33 251B written on it.. .

The plot thickens. . .

Marcus

[itbgti]

Speed Raycer,

Sorry for the thread hijack...but you all may want to start this Brembo issue in the General IT Forum...a lot of us use this brand, and if this turns out to be something major, we can all benefit from it. Thanks for taking the iniative and keep the posts coming.

Alan

[ddewhurst]

Marcus, interesting info.

The Brembo box that my parts house has is marked #25361 (same as the Bremdo catalog) & the O.D. of the flange where the wheel mounts is stamped "FA54-33-251B Japan".

My parts house has another set ordered that has nothing stamped on on the rotor flange. I presume the rotors will have the same cast in mark you talked about.

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David

[jake7140]

Year before last I bought from Olympic Auto parts (www.forparts.com). I bought 4 fronts (true Brembos) for an '83 (small bearing, which appear to be more expensive than the big bearing ones, which is the opposite of Tirerack's pricing). They gave me a price break to $40 each + shipping. I think their "list" price at the time was around $55. Had a nice mom & pop feel, and I have bought other items at good prices through them also.

I'll have to go back through receipts for the real phone number though as there are some similarly named places.

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[ddewhurst]

****I bought 4 fronts (true Brembos) for an '83 ****

Steve, what told you the rotors were "true Brembos"?

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David

Theres no way I can go wrong with my $24 each price, change them every other race and still be ahead.

[Speed Raycer]

7's.... where are you getting them for $24 a piece????!!!!!????

[Marcus Miller]

crap; I guess I'll look forward to replacing them very soon. . . I'm glad (I hope!) no one acted on my source and got the knock-offs. . .

Time to go looking around. . . maybe try some from Tire rack, since they seem to be a legit source...


Marcus

[Marcus Miller]

Picts of the 'Brembo's' are here:
http://images.miller-motorsports.com/brembos


Dial up warning! I didn't resize the picts, they are 1280X1024 -ish. . .

Marcus

There not Brembos, there just cheapies from my local brake house, B&D Brake supply here in Bakersfield,CA

[ddewhurst]

****The box red with Brembo markings has part number FA54-33 251B "written" on it..****

Marcus, in your sentence you used the word "written". Do you mean the number was hand written or machine printed ?

I looked at your pictures & I find the instruction sheet interesting.

I put a message in the Spec-7 e-mail looking for more info.

Friday I am going to call a lady at Brembo who I had talked to approx 1 year ago & see if I can learn alything else. I am also going to talk to a top gun in RX-7 in Florida & see if he uses Brembo & what info he knows.

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David

ps: Daryl, the Brembo's the local house got are $30.00 & that is another key why I started asking questions. Prices from $30 to $59 for the same item comes of as tho something is not correct. Changing rotors every other event sucks. :-( Sooner or later one of those suckers is going to more than crack during a race. 8-(

[Marcus Miller]

Sorry David! It's machine printed as the partnumber, not hand written.


Marcus

[ddewhurst]

The latest response from Mr. Brake Anal is: http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/biggrin.gif

During my second call to Brembo the guy didn't want to talk to much about their part numbers & identifying true Brembo stuff from questionable stuff. http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/frown.gif The guy did tell me there are rotors out there manufactured by a company in China called Brambo & they package in a red & white knockoff box like Brembo. http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/frown.gif

Anyway my parts guy called with the latest arrival of Brembo rotors. As far as I am concerned these are BREMBO rotors. They have the word "Brembo", the "Brembo logo" & a number "1197 A BB" stamped on the O.D. of the rotor. The other main item I was looking for & didn't talk about is the "pillar venting" & they have the pillar venting. I was waiting for someone else to bring up the pillar venting. Pillar venting is a series of three different shaped pillars that seperate the inside pad surface from the outside pad surface through the vent area.

I am now satisfied I have Brembo rotors.

The Mazda Comp rotors had a spiral pillar going from the outside towards the center of the rotor IIRC. (It's to friken cold to go out & check.) The first Brembo boxed rotor my parts house had the pillar was straight pillar going from the outside of the rotor towards the center of the rotor.

Go to [email protected] (http://[email protected]) to look at the multi shaped pillar venting.

Anyone else have pillar venting ?

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David







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[Festus E. Simkins]

NAPA rotors, lifetime warrenty, made in Canada, work great. If they crack I take'm back and get new ones. You can probably use the bearings and races again if you want and are careful getting the races out. Replace the seal with a new one. Usually get about 6 to 8 races out of a set of fronts. I run air ducts to front rotors. Price was about $50 each a couple years ago.

Drive well.

[jake7140]

Steve, what told you the rotors were "true Brembos"?


Haven't cracked one yet. Got them in 2/02 for a total of $44 ea (incl shipping) from Olympic Imported Parts 800-370-0041, www.forparts.com (http://www.forparts.com).

They listed list price at $65 at the time.

Interestingly, one set had a big ugly stamping on the wheel mounting face (where the studs mount), and one set did not. Both boxers were original, un-retouched/taped.

I stil have some races left on the second set, and I have done some long HPDE sessions too, all with no rotor probs.

Perhaps I just don't slow down enough! :-D

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[moto62]

Originally posted by jake7140:
Perhaps I just don't slow down enough! :-D

....or perhaps you're not going fast enough http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/biggrin.gif
Ray

[ddewhurst]

Ray, ya beat me to it. http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/biggrin.gif http://Forums.ImprovedTouring.com/it/wink.gif

The only time Steve & I have been at the same event my transmission went south in the 1st practice session. ;(

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David

[jake7140]

Ouch! But bring it on, there's only one way to find out. It'd be nice to get some level comp rather than having to beat all those other "faster" cars. The trick will be to find me this year, it will be more of a hiatus year, with tight money and some circle track playing.

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[rlekun]

I only buy heat treated rotors from Porterfield. The increase in the life expentancy is phenominal!! I believe they use Brembos. The price is something like $67 plus shipping. I hate changing rotors at the track, so the extra price is worth it. Before I started using the heat treated versions, it seemed like I was changing rotors about every three races. For the record I use Hawk Blues and have the Mazda competition venting set-up.