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KarsRgood
05-15-2005, 09:29 PM
Just wondering if the weight in the front has ruined the cars chances of being a fast IT car. Has anyone attempted? Any info would be great. Thanks in advance.
Mike

Bill Miller
05-16-2005, 07:46 AM
Don't know about a Golf/Jetta VR6, but there are a couple of VR6 Corrados out there. There's a guy from the NE that used to race a VR6 Jetta in WC (Hugh Stewart), but he's since switched to an SRT/4. The cars are nose heavy to begin with, and unfortunately, they're saddled w/ a bit too much weight, at this point in time. Best bet is probably the Corrado, but the cars are scarce, and parts are not cheap.

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Fastfred92
05-17-2005, 12:03 PM
FYI, my VR6 GTI might be for sale at the end of the season and it is reasonably fast at most tracks ( 5 SARRC wins so far in SSB ) and flirting with track records in a few places... it is 250 lbs heavy vs. ITS and no real suspension but I think it may prove to be a suprise in IT?? The slight aero trade off with the Corrado would more than make up for it self in parts cost... my .02 worth


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Fred Alphin
#92 Hankook Tire SSB VW GTI VR6
BMW 325i ITS ( 2006 ? )

KarsRgood
05-17-2005, 02:59 PM
Yea i think with the corrado being hard to find and expensive parts, it would be fun to build a GTI but i would want to learn more about it with other peoples attempts.

Bildon
05-17-2005, 10:56 PM
Well give me a couple more weekends to test and I'll let you know. So far teh testing I've done at BeaveRun has surprised me.

We took a lot of weight out of the front and have stiffened the springs and removed the sway bar...it turnes in quite well and brakes pretty good too.

Need to do some work with a LSD to determine if we can eliminate all the wheel spin...it has so much torque.

http://www.bildon.com/pub/Corrado_Pocono_sm.jpg

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Bill Sulouff - Bildon Motorsport (http://www.bildon.com)
Volkswagen Racing Equipment

Bill Miller
05-18-2005, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Bildon:
Well give me a couple more weekends to test and I'll let you know. So far teh testing I've done at BeaveRun has surprised me.

We took a lot of weight out of the front and have stiffened the springs and removed the sway bar...it turnes in quite well and brakes pretty good too.

Need to do some work with a LSD to determine if we can eliminate all the wheel spin...it has so much torque.

http://www.bildon.com/pub/Corrado_Pocono_sm.jpg




Cool beans Bill, glad to see the car on the track. I wonder what your competitors say the first time they see that 'cockpit adjustable rear spoiler' in action?? http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/eek.gif http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif


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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

Bildon
05-18-2005, 06:08 PM
>> I wonder what your competitors say the first time they see that 'cockpit adjustable rear spoiler' in action??

They say "Hey look, you can add more drag whenever you want to" http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif

Actually at Pocono they said "What Broke?"
grrrrrrr http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/mad.gif


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Bill Sulouff - Bildon Motorsport (http://www.bildon.com)
Volkswagen Racing Equipment

Andy Bettencourt
05-18-2005, 07:53 PM
You know it Bill. That was one of the few downers of the weekend. Really wanted to see you out there.

Keep plugging away!

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)

racer_tim
05-18-2005, 10:09 PM
Bill, what did break?

There is a guy here in San Francisco that used to race a 4 door Jetta in ITB, and has just completed his ITS Corrado. It sounds SWEET.

Philip Munoz is his name



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Tim Linerud
San Francisco Region SCCA
#95 GP Wabbit
http://linerud.myvnc.com/racing/index.html

racer_tim @ yahoo dot com

JeffYoung
05-18-2005, 10:18 PM
What a great looking car -- could be a sleeper in ITS.

I saw my first ITS Jetta at Roebling in April. Surprisingly, to me at least, it ran near the front on Sunday until it broke. Roebling is a "driver's" track, not very horsepower dependent, so that might have helped. But, I was impressed, AND it was a 2.0 16V GLi Jetta, not the VR6.

Drivers were two guys, one from Florida, one from California. Nice guys.

Bill Miller
05-19-2005, 07:27 AM
Jeff,

I know there's a request in front of the ITAC/CRB to move to A2 2.0 16v VW's from ITS to ITA (nee: IT2 http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif )

/edit/It was in the March, '05 FasTrack to move them to ITA effective 1/1/06.

Hey Andy B., any update on getting the weight typo fixed?

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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[This message has been edited by Bill Miller (edited May 19, 2005).]

Andy Bettencourt
05-19-2005, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by Bill Miller:

Hey Andy B., any update on getting the weight typo fixed?



It's in the works. Will be fixed for the listing in the GCR.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)

Bildon
05-22-2005, 08:50 PM
>> Bill, what did break?

The rod bearings smeared do to what appears to be insufficient cleaning of the head. The head had been pulled from storage unit that was flooded. The hot tank and cleaning did not evidently get all the silt out. I found fine dirt in the filter and I belive this clogged the rod bearing passages.

Good news is that the rest of the engine is fine. Another thorough cleaning, the old SSA motor balanced crank and we'll be back in business.

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Bill Sulouff - Bildon Motorsport (http://www.bildon.com)
Volkswagen Racing Equipment