REFILLING HALON BOTTLES

[BMW RACER]

It's a fairly long embarassing story, but I now have a spare brand new but empty 5lb Safety Systems fire bottle with a sticker on it that says it's rechargable. But when I call Safety Systems they tell me they cannot recharge it because its an aluminum container. ANY IDEAS?
Cheers.
John Norris

[philstireservice]

Originally posted by BMW RACER:
It's a fairly long embarassing story, but I now have a spare brand new but empty 5lb Safety Systems fire bottle with a sticker on it that says it's rechargable. But when I call Safety Systems they tell me they cannot recharge it because its an aluminum container. ANY IDEAS?
Cheers.
John Norris

you might want to consider changing your fire system

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Phil Phillips
94 Acura Integra GSR #4
ITS/H3/ST1
www.philstireservice.com
Official Independent Amsoil Dealer for the East Coast Honda Challenge
distributor for FireCharger AFFF fire systems
Hoosier Tire Dealer
Toyo Tire Dealer

ill take that as a "shameless plug" http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/smile.gif

[Knestis]

Call James Standley at Competition Systems in Seattle. I'm not sure what they are currently doing but he had worked out refilling Lifeline systems locally and had a good relationship with the folks who actually handled the gas for him. I don't KNOW that this will help but James knows about this stuff.

K

[JohnRW]

Beyond the 'limited availability of Halon' issue, the bottle itself could be the problem. IIRC, there are new (new = less than 5 years old) DOT requirements for materials and designs for firebottles. If bottles don't meet the current requirements, the recharge/refill stations won't touch them.

[Knestis]

There are actually other issues at play. Pressure vessels have to conform to particular specs (DOT, I think) to be shipped. It may be that they can be filled but not shipped and I understand from one source (one of the largest Halon recyclers in the world) that there is NO actual shortage of either 1211 or 1301. I'll only add that I searched long and hard to find a good Halon 1211 hand-held for the SS car and will use the same stuff in an onboard system when I upgrade it.

K

[philstireservice]

Originally posted by 7'sRracing:
ill take that as a "shameless plug" http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/smile.gif

lol....I truly didn't mean it to be a plug.....but there are better and easier fire systems on the market....

I went through similar problems in the past ...until ...lol...(buttoning lip here) http://Forum.ImprovedTouring.com/it/smile.gif

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Phil Phillips
94 Acura Integra GSR #4
ITS/H3/ST1
www.philstireservice.com (http://www.philstireservice.com)
Official Independent Amsoil Dealer for the East Coast Honda Challenge
distributor for FireCharger AFFF fire systems
Hoosier Tire Dealer
Toyo Tire Dealer

[This message has been edited by philstireservice (edited April 28, 2004).]

[Quickshoe]

John,

If you are in So-Cal shoot me an e-mail.

quickshoe (at) earthlink (dot) net

I might be able to help you out.

[jc836]

Go to www.firebottleracing.com (http://www.firebottleracing.com). They are the supplier to many pro teams and sell thru Summit as well. Last time I talked to them they could do a refill. I agree that the alternate AFFF may be a better choice for the long term. We are looking at both systems now to replace our Purple K handheld.

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