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Racescort
10-16-2003, 03:55 PM
Besides IO Port where can I look for a seat brace?

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dickita15
10-16-2003, 04:13 PM
butler race seats has a nice one

dickita15
10-16-2003, 06:10 PM
just saw a nice adjustable one in the jeg's catalog.

Scott Nutter
10-16-2003, 07:34 PM
You could also try looking in your scrap metal bin and make one along with a U clamp. I used two 1/2" solid stock pieces welded to 1 1/2" plate, to accept the U clamp. The other ends I bent out and welded pieces of anle iron on to match the contour of my seat, and that is what I attached to the seat back. Kinda looks like a big Y. If you would like, I'll send you a picture of mine.

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Fleetcare
10-17-2003, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by Scott Nutter:
You could also try looking in your scrap metal bin and make one along with a U clamp. I used two 1/2" solid stock pieces welded to 1 1/2" plate, to accept the U clamp. The other ends I bent out and welded pieces of anle iron on to match the contour of my seat, and that is what I attached to the seat back. Kinda looks like a big Y. If you would like, I'll send you a picture of mine.

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I welded one up.. Then I was told Ididnt need it...

dickita15
10-17-2003, 06:01 AM
Originally posted by Fleetcare:
I welded one up.. Then I was told Ididnt need it...

I assume tha is because you have a fia seat that is certified to race without one.
dick

Fleetcare
10-19-2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by dickita15:

Originally posted by Fleetcare:
I welded one up.. Then I was told Ididnt need it...

I assume tha is because you have a fia seat that is certified to race without one.
dick

exactly

Knestis
10-19-2003, 06:23 PM
Everyone with a seat brace should picture what would happen if the seat that it is bolted to should fail at that joint...

Is it something that you would want pointing at your spine?

Kirk (who thinks SCCA seat braces are a case of scarey unintended consequences looking for a place to happen)

apr67
10-19-2003, 08:14 PM
Originally posted by Knestis:
(who thinks SCCA seat braces are a case of scarey unintended consequences looking for a place to happen)

I do agree with this sentament. It's a scary thought, so I suggest a big backing plate.

Alan

Scott Nutter
10-20-2003, 06:40 PM
It is that reason that led me to my design of a Y, so if my seat does move toward the roll cage at least I'll only destroy both my shoulders instead of my spine.

Fleetcare
10-21-2003, 01:30 PM
Originally posted by apr67:
I do agree with this sentament. It's a scary thought, so I suggest a big backing plate.

Alan

I agree! Thats why I made one with 150sqr inches of contact. So basically I am dead or its done its job..

I understand where the idea is valid. If your seat moves and puts slack in the belts you would have mroe velocity when you hit them, if you hit them. But I think it should be a case of a better seat being made and better mounting ideas..

Its somewhat of a bandaid for the problem

apr67
10-21-2003, 08:09 PM
In reality, our seats should mount only to the cage and nothing else. That is how a lot of big 'real' race cars do it. Keeping the seat totally attached to the saftey cage is the best way to ensure that the cage and seat and ergo, driver can all move the same way at the same time.

But it would be expensive and difficult to do in most of our race cars. Look at the cockpit of many IT cars and you just don't have room. And our rules wouldn't really allow it anyway, unless you are VERY creative.

Alan

lateapex911
10-21-2003, 08:38 PM
IIRC the rule came about as a result of a driver in a Porsche club event spinning and hitting a wall backwards, whereupon his seat bracket failed in the front, leaning his seat back dramaticaly. He died of neck injuries due to the seats movement, but his heads restriction (the roll bar).

It would seem that the new rule is the result of a lesser of two evils...

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Jake Gulick
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