NHIS Double July 9/10

[racer-025]

Just wanted to say that there are a few of us Cannucks coming down for this event. Any of you IT.com folks, please come buy and say hey (beers on us) Just look for the Vantage bunch or our identical red/white CRX's.

Racer-025
Bruce McNutt ARMS #25
Nova Scotia

[Greg Amy]

No worries, we'll wave as we go by... <very big evil grin> - GA

Edit: Hold on to your hollyhocks...I just reread the post! If you're a-bringing the Canajun beer along, I'm all for cross-border relations and all that stuff...After you, kind sir!!

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[irondragon]

Bruce:
Glad to know that you lot are coming. Please try to convince Derek that cars are to be passed, not pushed.
I seem to have overcome the fuel starvation problem that got me in his way last time, but I'm getting the car ready for the Nelson Ledges 12-hour so I'll just be there to watch.
Best Regards - Bill Miskoe

[Bill Miller]

Hey Bill Miskoe,

Did you used to race a black 240z way back in the day? Many years ago (1990?), I paddocked next to a guy at Bridgehampton that had a black 240z w/ 'Iron Dragon Racing' on it.

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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[16v]

Originally posted by GregAmy:


Edit: Hold on to your hollyhocks...


ack! a Derek Daly quote here on IT.com? The horror!



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[lateapex911]

I've always thought that SPEED fired him for saying that!

What in hell are hollyhocks anyway???

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Jake Gulick
CarriageHouse Motorsports
ITA 57 RX-7
New England Region
[email protected]

[Greg Amy]

http://img168.echo.cx/img168/8789/hollyhocks4kk.jpg

[lateapex911]

thank god it wasn't what I thought it might be greg...I almost didn't click on that link!

But...now the phrase, as it relates to auto racing, makes NO sense!

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Jake Gulick
CarriageHouse Motorsports
ITA 57 RX-7
New England Region
[email protected]

[16v]

Originally posted by lateapex911:


But...now the phrase, as it relates to auto racing, makes NO sense!



then again, neither does Daly 99% of the time. http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif

[irondragon]

Originally posted by Bill Miller:
Hey Bill Miskoe,

Did you used to race a black 240z way back in the day? Many years ago (1990?), I paddocked next to a guy at Bridgehampton that had a black 240z w/ 'Iron Dragon Racing' on it.
Bill:
I've had a few black Z-cars, some at Bridgehampton, though not till after 1994.
Now I have a red/yellow 280Z.
I hope I didn't do anything too outrageous at the Bridge.
Best Regards - Bill Miskoe

[JLawton]

Anybody know when they are going to open the on-line registration??

[itracer]

Registration is open.

See you there.



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Jason
ITB 17 (NER SCCA)
VW Scirocco

[racer-025]

Bill, the 12 hour would be awesome. Many of us dont venture South of the border very much, so this double event will be fun. Not as much track time as we are used to, but fun nevertheless. Drop by for a cold-one, because I owe you one anyway. Just look for older Southwind Motorhome & 2-car trailer.

I'll be battling with Derek this Sunday at AMP (Nova Scotia). He's tough, but if I'm running good, he shouldn't be a problem (I shouldn't say that - he's probably watching IT.com!) http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/wink.gif

BTW, there will be at least 7+ of us Cannucks coming down to this event. A bunch of us racers got together and decided to do a group event somewhere within a 10-12 hour drive. NHIS seemed to be the logical place. I would also like to suggest that any of you Northeast racers could do the same and come up to our facility. What you would get is tons of track time, very friendly people and lots of fun.

We are planning on doing the same at a 3-hour endurance race at Mosport in September.

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[Vantage #51]

Hi Bill,
Sorry about the push,Just with a full course yellow out,passing was not an option,just wanted to "help you along"
so to speak.
Please drop by during the Roast.
Derek

[Bill Miller]

Originally posted by irondragon:


Bill,

Maybe it was a liitle later than 1990. IIRC, there was also a guy there w/ a red 300ZX, paddocked next to us. I had a yellow AW11 MR2 at the time.



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MARRS #25 ITB Rabbit GTI (sold) | MARRS #25 HProd Rabbit
SCCA 279608

[racer-025]

It looks like 2 of us (including myself) are not going to make to this event. Too much work getting in the way. Rats! The Vantage crew should be at the track tonight. At least they will have some fun.

[Doc Bro]

I'm thinking about leaving the car at home and bringing up a boat instead. Any takers on pontoon boat racing this weekend?

Rob Breault
NER
ITA BMW Z3 #36
Black

[gran racing]

That will save me some money on my Hoosier tire budget so sure, why not?

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Dave Gran
NER ITB #13
'87 Honda Prelude si

[bg43wex]

Good afternoon Racers,

It has come to our attention, that this weekends event might be short staffed in the flagging department, ther are events at LRP, the Glen and mount Washington. this does not usually happen.

If the minimum corner staffing levels are not met the event could be held up until they are.

I am asking any competitor who will be attending to keep an ear open incase we are short. any licensed driver is qualified to work a corner and we may need your help.

I know we could all help each other and work together by taking turns staffing corners. a couple of sessions is all someone would have to work to make the weekend run smooth.

with some luck we'll be ok
thanx brian m

[Doc Bro]

I'll be glad to help in a corner if it is needed. I don't mind at all. The only request would be allowing time around my race to get ready.
Rob

Rob Breault
NER
ITA BMW Z3 #36
Black

[benspeed]

I'll be glad to work a corner also. I'll check at regsitrationa and submit my name.

Thanks,

Ben

[JLawton]

I have to take my hat off to a turn 3 corner worker on Saturday. I was watching the ITS when an RX7 went straight into the barrier between 3 and 10. This 110lb corner worker jumped down with exstingusher and crept all the way across in front of the barrier to check on the driver. Although there was a standing yellow, NOBODY was slowing down (and there was even a pass or two.....). She then lead the driver off to the side.

That took a LOT of guts!! I know that the workers do this all the time but this one hit home with me!! She deserved a standing "O" for that performance.

Also, nice job by the Vantage guys from Canada. I'll buy the beer if you DON'T come down again!! http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif

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Jeff L
#74 ITB GTi

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[16v]

she got right out there

http://www.ner.org/RR1/05/events/05pigroast/img/t3wall_pig05.jpg

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Doug
NER.org (http://www.ner.org) webmaster
the16v.com (http://www.the16v.com) Photography
briansgarage.com (http://www.briansgarage.com)

[lateapex911]

Credit goes to Eileen McStay, corner worker/flagger extrodinaire for more years that you'd think just looking at her! Grant McStay is her husband, and he too has worked more corners than most of us have raced...and after awhile, he took the plunge and has joined us on the other side....he now drives (very well, I might add, congrats go to him for his ITA 'Lite" win yesterday) an ITA RX-7. It's Petty blue, so feel free to say hi and thanks to them the next time you're cruising the paddock.

(And that RX-7 MOVED the cement barrier a foot, BTW)

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Jake Gulick
CarriageHouse Motorsports
ITA 57 RX-7
New England Region
[email protected]

[JLawton]

Doug, nice shot (as always)

Grant, let your wife know she has given this racer a whole new prospective on what our workers do and go through!! She's the BOMB!

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Jeff L
#74 ITB GTi

[nlevine]

Results, anyone?

Family matters intervened and prevented my participation (first July weekend I've missed even attending in 7 years). Curious as to how the ITA battle went.

-noam
#18 ITA BMW Z3

[dazzlesa]

saturday
shepard
hunter
mushhnick
victor
rick
dominick
steven garrieran
brian
grant
mark carpentar
sunday
rick
hunter
mushnick
domininick
mark carpentar
brett bogart
shepard
grant mcstay
jake gulick
jake fisher

[RSTPerformance]

Full ITB Results anyone???

Also for all any "great" races and or mishaps that we would all be interested in???

I was at the Glenn for the National, we had over 300 entrants and I believe that at NHIS you had well over 200 entrants... Its great to see that between 2 Northeast tracks we had over 500 people racing!!! SCCA and Racing in general is going/growing strong http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif

Raymond

[Andy Bettencourt]

Originally posted by RSTPerformance:
Full ITB Results anyone???

Also for all any "great" races and or mishaps that we would all be interested in???

I was at the Glenn for the National, we had over 300 entrants and I believe that at NHIS you had well over 200 entrants... Its great to see that between 2 Northeast tracks we had over 500 people racing!!! SCCA and Racing in general is going/growing strong http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif

Raymond

ITB ran with SM this weekend in a schedule change due to the 55 Miata's signed up between SM and SSM. Not many ITBers were super thrilled but it would be interesting to hear the thoughts post race.

As usual, the Vantage team was there and strong. I think Carlson tool Sat and Lugar took Sunday. The best part about seeing them is that they ALWAYS look like they are having fun. THAT is great.

We had 3 ITS RX-7's, 1 ITA Miata, and 3 Spec Miata's running...all came home safe along with a couple checkers.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)
http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/images/misc/RX-7_Avitar.jpg

[RSTPerformance]

How was the pigroast this year? http://www.rstperformance.com/pictures/rstpictures2004season/nhispigroast/DSCN1443.JPG

I was just checking in to see how things have been going. I'm on the cape working 6 days a week and Haven't seen the racetrack yet this year http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/frown.gif I'll check back again in August when I come home again.

Hope your all having a great year!

Stephen Blethen
ITB Blue/Silver Audi Coupe http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/frown.gif

PS: Congrats to Derek for being the first person I can remember to beat Scott in a long time! I have yet to be able to beat him! Maybe next year http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/frown.gif


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[JLawton]

Originally posted by Andy Bettencourt:
Not many ITBers were super thrilled but it would be interesting to hear the thoughts post race.

Oooooh, I am so biting my tongue!!!!

I had a loooong statement written but decided it wasn't worth it!!

I also read the rant on the Miata board about the protests. It goes to show you why we don't like running with them when they complain about being protested AFTER THEY HIT SOMEONE!! Not the right attitude to have......

I would rather run with the ITS guys any day!!


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Jeff L
#74 ITB GTi

[Andy Bettencourt]

Originally posted by JLawton:
Oooooh, I am so biting my tongue!!!!

I had a loooong statement written but decided it wasn't worth it!!

I also read the rant on the Miata board about the protests. It goes to show you why we don't like running with them when they complain about being protested AFTER THEY HIT SOMEONE!! Not the right attitude to have......

I would rather run with the ITS guys any day!!




Is "THEY" the majority? How was your race Jeff? I was right behind Scott and Derek Sunday. Outstanding race between the two. I have raced next to Paul Curran and would anyday.

I was talking to somebody who said there were a lot of crap drivers in SM...and I pointe dout that most classes have a certain percentage of drivers we all don't like to be near...and that # goes up when there are 55 Miata at the track any given weekend!

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)
http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/images/misc/RX-7_Avitar.jpg

[16v]

How to caption this one?
http://www.ner.org/RR1/05/events/05pigroast/img/eyes.jpg


got about 600 images to go thru from the weekend

[Andy Bettencourt]

Originally posted by 16v:
How to caption this one?


How about:

"Don't shoot until you see the whites of his eyes..."

Where was this? Grid?

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)
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[16v]

nope, at speed in the chicane. About a foot away from the other car

[ner88]

So Jim, If an ITB hits an ITB that is different than being hit by a SM? I'm biting my tongue as well. I would love to see 30 ITBs in a race......why are there so many racers in Miatas? Sorry, I'm tried of people pointing fingers at "those Miata Guys"

[biovic]

Yes, there was some interesting stuff both days in ITA, courtesy of Victor (me). http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif
Apologies to the whole ITA/ITC field on Sunday at the start as I limped along from 2nd place to 30th, and kudos for not ramming me. I was having some computer issues, but I managed to stay out of everyone's way and finish (not last) 18 laps. I have not DNF'd in 4 years and I wasn't going to start yesterday!
On Saturday in an awesome race (in my opinion) with Jeremy about halfway through I took turn 2 coming out the oval too wide and got loose in the marbles. Managed to miss the back straight wall after doing a 360 plus a 180. Worked my way back to 4th and I was happy. Good weekend all around, some issues too, but that's racing.
Victor
03 ITA

[gran racing]

I was actually pretty happy to be running with SM this weekend, not that I have an issue with ITS either. (Hoping I can get some of the Swedish Pit in me.) I had 19 cars (some ITB cars) within 1 second of my time. Pretty freakn' cool!! And this is said after getting a "ding" on my car from a SM. O.k. So even duck tape can't repair this one. http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/frown.gif

Sat. - Watching Carlson qualify in the wet was amazing! Seriously. On Sunday I was right behind him for at least a 1/4 lap during qualifying but just couldn't keep his pace. O.k. I totally don't get NHIS and can't seem to find any flow there. But still I had a fun weekend and enjoyed hanging out with the guys and gals.

Too bad about Paul Curran's car issues. Hopefully he'll get things straightened out for the NARRC.

Jeff - I wonder what times you'd be doing with some Hoosiers or the new Kuhmos? I don't think you give yourself enough credit. (Think Labor Day Summit Point!)

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Dave Gran
NER ITB #13
'87 Honda Prelude si

[RSTPerformance]

Wasn't at the track, but I must say that when I (an ITB driver) have been grouped with SM or SSM I have enjoyed driving with 95% of them. They have all "Raced" me without any issues (from my end anyway http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/wink.gif). That could be though because the front running ITB cars generally run with the Front running SM or SSM cars in my races past (not sure if that is still the case or not). Generally every large class gets a percentage of poorer drivers the further back in the pack you go. (and NO to those that have slow cars but drive well, I don't mean you!!!)

Raymond "I would rather sun with SM or SSM than in mid pack ITS" Blethen

[Andy Bettencourt]

Originally posted by biovic:
...I took turn 2 coming out the oval too wide and got loose in the marbles. Managed to miss the back straight wall after doing a 360 plus a 180. Victor
03 ITA

Victor,

There wasn't ONE person who was watching from T3 who thought you weren't going HARD into the concrete. It was a GREAT SAVE. For those who didn't see it, picture one of Tony Stewart's 'spin-down-the-straight-and-keep-it-off-the-wall-AND-end-up-going-the-right-way' type of deals...

Sweet.

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)
http://www.flatout-motorsports.com/images/misc/RX-7_Avitar.jpg

[lateapex911]

Originally posted by JLawton:
Oooooh, I am so biting my tongue!!!!

I had a loooong statement written but decided it wasn't worth it!!

I also read the rant on the Miata board about the protests. It goes to show you why we don't like running with them when they complain about being protested AFTER THEY HIT SOMEONE!! Not the right attitude to have......

I would rather run with the ITS guys any day!!




Jeff, I went looking for that rant, but no luck. Can you give a link?



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Jake Gulick
CarriageHouse Motorsports
ITA 57 RX-7
New England Region
[email protected]

[itracer]

Originally posted by lateapex911:
Jeff, I went looking for that rant, but no luck. Can you give a link?



http://forum.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimat...=7;t=000715;p=0 (http://forum.specmiata.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=7;t=000715;p=0)

For everyone's info - it was the ITA race and the ITB race. In the ITB race the driver WITHDREW the protest due to the fact that he felt confident that the message was understood by the driver involved.

I am not going to post on the SM page, because this is where I belong http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif

~Jason

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Jason
ITB 17 (NER SCCA)
VW Scirocco

[JLawton]

Originally posted by ner88:
So Jim, If an ITB hits an ITB that is different than being hit by a SM? I'm biting my tongue as well. I would love to see 30 ITBs in a race......why are there so many racers in Miatas? Sorry, I'm tried of people pointing fingers at "those Miata Guys"

Yes, I know my statement came acrosss as a generalization, as Andy was pointing out http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif I saw Crew "Lady's" comments and was a little POed. However, the follow up posts restored a lot of good will for me. I did have my issues in Saturdays race, went to talk to the other driver and got nothing but attituded. Those two events plus having to run with cars that were so evenly matched made for a frustrating weekend in that sense (I did over all have a blast!!!). I was help up by Miata's as I'm SURE I held some of them up.


It's funny, a few years ago IT had the same reputation as the Maitas do know!! Only it was justified!! http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/biggrin.gif

I would still rather run with ITS because of the speed differential. That way I can dice with just ITB cars. Andy, NER88, I'll refrain from generalizing about Miatas!!


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Jeff L
#74 ITB GTi

[16v]

I just lost braincells trying to navigate that thread http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/tongue.gif


anyway. Race weekend images are online

[ner88]

Thanks Jeff, we're all there for the same reasons.

[itracer]

I, for one, had a good (not great, I'll expand on that) weekend and did not have any personal issues with any SM cars. I did question the legality of rear window tint and went to the driver on grid to mention that I could not see him wave off the start on Saturday. When I approached him on Sunday, he had already removed the tint, and welcomed the feedback that I could not see hand signals.

The Saturday qual. went well despite the incorrect decision to run rains and my shift selector falling off leaving me in what I think was fourth gear. I still qualified OK. The race was going very well, as I diced back and forth with Eli in the #67 ITB VW which is the sister car to my #17 Red VW. We had a great time, but I had a drive flange separate from the tranny, which put me out at lap 12. I did post a lap time that was on .2 seconds off my brother’s fastest NHIS time which is very encouraging.

I did end my race early on Sunday when a SM car spun at the exit of the chicane and I had no where to go, but that was a racing incident and he had been racing around me and ITB car for the previous four laps without any incidents. I spoke with Rob McCabe (#54 Vantage car) after the incident because he helped to accelerate me into the Miata when I had the binders on and the wheel turned to avoid the incident. He said he had his wheel completely turned and there was nothing he could do either. I sustained heavy damage to the front and lite damage to the rear. Repairs will begin tonight.

Thanks to Brian Mushnick, Jeff Benagh, Fire Rescue (parts recovery), Rapid (more parts recovery), and Raymond Blethen (graphics).

Also thanks for some great {clean} racing/qualifying with: Charles Gerundo (#95 ITB); Jeff Lawton (#74 ITB); and Eli Garret (#67 ITB).

If all goes well, I will see everyone at the Glen. If not, I will be at NHIS in August.


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Jason
ITB 17 (NER SCCA)
VW Scirocco

[itbgti]

First, I would like to thank all the drivers who made it by my "new car" as I was shaking it out. I was struggling with fuel delivery issues due to a rusty (and I mean R-U-S-T-Y) gas tank...during one of the fuel filter cleanings we pulled out two full-sized bugs. I made every attempt to lift and be off line when faster cars approached

Jeff Lawton, Eli, Jeff and Jason, Derek (and the rest of the SM and ITB crowd)....I made sure to leave you all plenty of room and I thank you for making it by without issues. I hope I did not hold you up at all.

The fuel tank is at a radiator shop right now, and will come back clean and coated.

As for the SM discussion...Andy is spot on (I hate when he is right). With any given group, you will get your group of "bad" drivers...with SM/SSM and a class of ~55, you will have a much higher chance of being around one of them. I happened to be in that situation...but I refrain from public forum rants...ON the lighter side, when I was getting tapped by an SM on my rear bumper, it was quite comical to see the SM wiggle and the Audi tank barely move http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif

Car should be much better at the Glen, but all in all, I am VERY happy considering the first at speed lap for the car was Saturday's race.

Regards,
Alan

[7racing]

Originally posted by biovic:
Yes, there was some interesting stuff both days in ITA, courtesy of Victor (me). http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif
Apologies to the whole ITA/ITC field on Sunday at the start as I limped along from 2nd place to 30th, and kudos for not ramming me. I was having some computer issues, but I managed to stay out of everyone's way and finish (not last) 18 laps. I have not DNF'd in 4 years and I wasn't going to start yesterday!
On Saturday in an awesome race (in my opinion) with Jeremy about halfway through I took turn 2 coming out the oval too wide and got loose in the marbles. Managed to miss the back straight wall after doing a 360 plus a 180. Worked my way back to 4th and I was happy. Good weekend all around, some issues too, but that's racing.
Victor
03 ITA


I'll second that Victor! Great race, I had a blast. Your spin was very entertaining in my mirror. I went through 3 and had to look up track to see if you hit anything. I can't believe you made it out.

Too bad for Sunday. About 5 or 6 laps into the race I started having some fuel delivery issues (at least that is the guess right now). Kind of made for a boring race for me on Sunday.

Jeremy

[MMiskoe]

Jason:

On behalf of the SM car who you went nose to nose w/ and to the yellow ITB Scirroco, here is the post that the SM driver asked me to provide, he is not a member on this site, but knew that I am:

"To the yellow and red ITB cars (both VWs??) sorry to have messed up your race on
Sunday, I normally go look for those I get mixed up with, but I was so disgusted
with myself i decided to pack it up and go home. I was so busy looking in my
mirrors as I came out of 2 I didnt realize I had gotten up into the cruddy stuff.
To the guy in the yellow car, thanks for getting around me without too hard a hit,
to the guy in the red car (Jason?) who hit nose to nose, thanks for having the
sense to be full on the binders, I thought this was going to be the full test of my
HANS device. I think you got the worst of it, which I truly am sorry for.
Regards
Rob Freitas
87 SM"

If you feel the need to get w/ Rob directly, let me know, I will put you in touch. He is a genuinely nice guy who would not want hard feelings to be felt between himself or any of the rest of the Miata Herd and the IT Crowd.

Matt

[itracer]

[quote]
to the guy in the red car (Jason?) who hit nose to nose, thanks for having the
sense to be full on the binders, I thought this was going to be the full test of my
HANS device. I think you got the worst of it, which I truly am sorry for.
Regards
Rob Freitas
87 SM"
QUOTE]

As I said in my post -- I see this as a racing incident. There was nowhere for me to go and nothing he did, but over drive the corner. No foul here. I have really good video (head on) of his car and mine.

I appreciate the response and I look forward to racing with Rob again.

Brian Mushnick helped me to pull out the front end using my truck. I hope to make it the Glen next weekend.

Happy racing.

Jason

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Jason
ITB 17 (NER SCCA)
VW Scirocco


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