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ITA Racer
04-17-2005, 05:58 PM
Dose anyone know if it is requiered to have the inside door handle realease if the door has been gutted and replaced with a sheetmetal pannel?

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95 ITA Neon

Knestis
04-17-2005, 06:57 PM
There's no provision that I know of that allows it to be removed but I haven't looked specifically for one. Unless you can find a reference allowing removal, you can't take it out.

K

ITA Racer
04-17-2005, 09:41 PM
Thanks Dave

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95 ITA Neon

Geo
04-17-2005, 11:07 PM
I need to do a little research, but I seem to remember a rule (perhaps in the GCR instead of the ITCS) that requires the ability to unlatch the door from the inside.


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George Roffe
Houston, TX
84 944 ITS car under construction
92 ITS Sentra SE-R occasionally borrowed
http://www.nissport.com

Geo
04-17-2005, 11:14 PM
I was wrong.

From the ITCS, 17.1.4.D.9.f.:

"The driver's door window glass, window operating mechanism, and inside door latch/lock operating mechanism may be removed..."

If it says you can, you bloody well can.

edit for spelling
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George Roffe
Houston, TX
84 944 ITS car under construction
92 ITS Sentra SE-R occasionally borrowed
http://www.nissport.com

[This message has been edited by Geo (edited April 18, 2005).]

lateapex911
04-17-2005, 11:25 PM
Phew.....I was worried for a second there!

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Jake Gulick
CarriageHouse Motorsports
ITA 57 RX-7
New England Region
[email protected]

Knestis
04-18-2005, 07:35 AM
<stanvoice>We learned something here today...</stanvoice>

Thanks, Geo!

K

Andy Bettencourt
04-18-2005, 08:51 AM
Funny, my first thought was that he was talking about the passenger door...in which case this would all be moot...since you can't gut that door...

AB

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Andy Bettencourt
New England Region, R188967
www.flatout-motorsports.com (http://www.flatout-motorsports.com)

dickita15
04-18-2005, 10:30 AM
gee andy I thought it was just me. I am not sure when you would gut a door and then skin it with alum.
you gut the drivers side for nascar bars or you replace uphostery with alum on any door but not both.
dick

Geo
04-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Originally posted by dickita15:
gee andy I thought it was just me. I am not sure when you would gut a door and then skin it with alum.
you gut the drivers side for nascar bars or you replace uphostery with alum on any door but not both.
dick

Good catch Dick. I meant to comment on that and forgot.

But, to answer your question, if I were to build NADSCAR bars in a cage, I would probably still over the opening with aluminum with a cavity for the NADSCAR bars. It would mean welding the cavity to the skin, but it would be nice and tidy.


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George Roffe
Houston, TX
84 944 ITS car under construction
92 ITS Sentra SE-R occasionally borrowed
http://www.nissport.com

ITA Racer
04-18-2005, 09:37 PM
Thanks for theinput guys. See you at the track.

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95 ITA Neon

zracre
04-18-2005, 11:27 PM
i guess if you reskin your passenger door with aluminum sheet you would have to make a provision for the stock inner handle to work...

Evan Darling
ITA Integra

RacerBill
04-19-2005, 06:38 AM
And don't forget the window crank, or switch, to roll down the window that shouldn't be there, I mean, that must be rolled down!!! Seriously, the car I used for Drivers School had electric windows!

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Bill Stevens
Mbr 103106
BnS Racing
83 ITA Shelby Dodge Charger

Knestis
04-19-2005, 07:55 AM
The RX7 that we raced in the ESCORT series not only had electric windows, it had electric mirrors. Great for adjusting after driver changes.

http://ITForum.ImprovedTouring.com/smile.gif

K

ITANorm
04-19-2005, 01:58 PM
My ITA car has an electric window (only one, since the driver's door glass is removed for NASCAR bar installation, and a power mirror (again, only one, since I removed the passenger side one and replaced it with a 5" convex).

Geo
04-19-2005, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by RacerBill:
And don't forget the window crank, or switch, to roll down the window that shouldn't be there, I mean, that must be rolled down!!! Seriously, the car I used for Drivers School had electric windows!



Hah. My car will retain the electric windows. In my car, replacing the electric mechanisms with manual will save all of about 3 lbs total!

RacerBill
04-20-2005, 09:16 AM
Not to mention being able to close the windows on the grid when it's raining or cold!

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Bill Stevens
Mbr 103106
BnS Racing
83 ITA Shelby Dodge Charger

mgoulde
04-29-2005, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by RacerBill:
Not to mention being able to close the windows on the grid when it's raining or cold!




I experienced the downside of this when I put the windows up when we were black flagged-all at NHIS last year during heavy rain and then forgot to put them back up when we went back out. I got black flagged and lost many positions while in the pit putting the windows back down. I would have been better off leaving them down in the pits and getting soaked.

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Michael Goulde, NER
BMW 325is
35 ITS/JP